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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"What's everyone's thought's on Bradford's signings for next year? Squad wise they obviously increased depth wise, quality could be a little higher though. I can see a spot for Bradford somewhere between sixth and eighth next year dependent upon injuries to themselves and those around them.
Chev Walker
Shaun Ainscough
Patrick Ah Van
Bryn Hargreaves
Olivier Elima
Ian Sibbitt
Shad Royston
Gareth Raynor
Matt Diskin'"
Overall, pretty poor. Not a group of players who you would expect to be able to bring big improvements to the Bradford side although I agree with WLA that Potter should do well for them.
Some of the signings come across as desperate gambles who are more likely to flop than reach their best form (Raynor, Walker) whilst some others may be solid pros but are hardly game breakers (Elima, Hargreaves, Sibbit). Ainscough is fraught with weaknesses as it stands at the moment and needs a lot of work.
Diskin should offer more than their current hookers though and Royston is probably the best player in the Championship.
Bradford will probably get to around 7th to 8th next year but I think they needed more quality to lift them on the field and to impress the supporters enough to convince them to stick around. This cheap season ticket deal surely won't be a long term thing. Who knows though, their recruitment might not be finished yet.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"What's everyone's thought's on Bradford's signings for next year? Squad wise they obviously increased depth wise, quality could be a little higher though. I can see a spot for Bradford somewhere between sixth and eighth next year dependent upon injuries to themselves and those around them.
Chev Walker
Shaun Ainscough
Patrick Ah Van
Bryn Hargreaves
Olivier Elima
Ian Sibbitt
Shad Royston
Gareth Raynor
Matt Diskin'"
Diskin is the best of that bunch yet they already had 2 pretty good hookers so it seems a strange one for me. They would be better of trying to sign at least one quality halfback because as it looks to me they must plan of using L'Estrange in the halfs and thats not good enough if they want to really make an impression next year.
The signings of Diskin and Elima are good, Ainscough could be a cracking signing and guys like Hargreaves will be solid enough but then buys like Sibbit, Walker and Raynor aren't the type i'd expect a club of Bradfords stature to make.
On the plus side for Bradford they got the 10,000 pledges for season tickets so thats a great move in the right direction. If they could sign a class half and a centre that could make some sort of impression they'll be in alot healthier state though.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"What's everyone's thought's on Bradford's signings for next year? Squad wise they obviously increased depth wise, quality could be a little higher though. I can see a spot for Bradford somewhere between sixth and eighth next year dependent upon injuries to themselves and those around them.
Chev Walker
Shaun Ainscough
Patrick Ah Van
Bryn Hargreaves
Olivier Elima
Ian Sibbitt
Shad Royston
Gareth Raynor
Matt Diskin'"
Only Diskin would get in our squad out of them and thats because we are short of hookers.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Diskin is the best of that bunch yet they already had 2 pretty good hookers so it seems a strange one for me. They would be better of trying to sign at least one quality halfback because as it looks to me they must plan of using L'Estrange in the halfs and thats not good enough if they want to really make an impression next year.
The signings of Diskin and Elima are good, Ainscough could be a cracking signing and guys like Hargreaves will be solid enough but then buys like Sibbit, Walker and Raynor aren't the type i'd expect a club of Bradfords stature to make.
On the plus side for Bradford they got the 10,000 pledges for season tickets so thats a great move in the right direction. If they could sign a class half and a centre that could make some sort of impression they'll be in alot healthier state though.'"
Yep, good halfback and centre along with the retention of Orford then they'd look a different prospect.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Yep, good halfback and centre along with the retention of Orford then they'd look a different prospect.'"
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Yep, good halfback and centre along with the retention of Orford then they'd look a different prospect.'"
Personally I feel they are best shot of Orford, I was someone who was hoping we would target him last year when he became available but am made up we dodged that bullet. We have been panned in the past for holiday and pension signings from the NRL and for me he has taken the biscuit. Had he signed for us and performed the way he has for the Bulls we would have been slammed.
One decision I cannot understand is not to retain Menzies for a further year. I find that stunning he has been the shining light at that club in some pretty dark days and may be knocking on but is still top quality and I am sure will continue to perform at Les Cats to a level above anyone at the Bulls next year.
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| Peraps Menzies was part of the swap for Elima?
Menzies had 1 year left and Elima has a good few years in him.
Not a bad swap (if that is the case)
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| More on the Leuluai Rumour to Manly here:
[urlhttp://www.silvertails.net/forums/index.php?topic=185756.25[/url
Quote Look what I have been hearing is that Lowey has secured Thomas Leuluai to come back from the UK and play in the halves for us. Apparently he made the contact through Thomas' father James, who was in and around the Kiwi setup during the 80's and I guess they got to know each other then.
Thomas's cousin is Kylie Leuluai and from what I have been told it was a call from Kylie that got him over the line to come to Manly in the end.
We may have to release a player in order for Wigan to let him out of his contract, but I wouldn't want to go into that as it would just be speculating and I want to keep to the facts here.
It'd be great if someone closer to the club could bring this up with Lowey maybe?
This mail has been coming pretty strong so I will be interested to hear if Dan has been hearing the same whispers.
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Quote When I was in NZ in August we went to the Warriors Knights game (My wife is a knights fan) and I wore my Manly Shirt as a stir.
Anyway the crowd over there was talking about the Lueluia (sp) thing, so that rumour might have some truth in it.
Cant confirm if its true, but thats what the locals were saying.'"
Quote Apparently Lowe was spotted after the match talking to Leuluai'"
Quote Gronk (person who posted the original rumour)I can neither confirm nor deny whether that is what I have also heard.
Let's just say, you aren't the only one with that story'"
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| MMM
Tommy to Manly, does that mean we are freeing up funds to bring in CAMERON SMITH, MMMMMM
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| I had this text off someone who used to be a regular poster on here.
Quote I was talking to Nigel Wright at the GF and he's text me since returning home to Penrith. The word over there is that Amos Roberts is going home because he has got a girl up the duff, phelps and pryce are having their contracts terminated and we will then announce the signing of billy slater.'"
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| On the story about Tommy to Manley.
Manley were up to the cap which prevented them re-signing Orford.
To take Tommy they would have to be be releasing a top player salary wise or it can't happen.
IL will drive a very hard bargain on the deal, that's if there's any truth in it at all.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"On the story about Tommy to Manley.
Manley were up to the cap which prevented them re-signing Orford.
To take Tommy they would have to be be releasing a top player salary wise or it can't happen.
IL will drive a very hard bargain on the deal, that's if there's any truth in it at all.'"
Unless they have a decent hooker which we'll take in return.
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| Why would we just 'let' Leuluai go?
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| Quote ="P-J"Why would we just 'let' Leuluai go?'"
He may want to go. He maybe unhappy about the way his best mate was treated.
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| Quote ="Pemps"He may want to go. He maybe unhappy about the way his best mate was treated.'"
Who?
I think personally he is happy as can be here.
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| Quote ="Mr.Side"Who?
I think personally he is happy as can be here.'"
Feka?
I agree, he comes across is if he is loving it here.
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| It just doesn't make sense to me.
Why would we let TL and Piggy (different circumstances admittedly) leave at the same time.
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| Quote ="Guerrier"It just doesn't make sense to me.
Why would we let TL and Piggy (different circumstances admittedly) leave at the same time.'"
It could surely only be if we had someone incredible lined up to replace them. But I hesitate to say that, because it's yet more putting two and two together and making five.
That said, it would be a very strange move to release our two hookers and have no-one else to bring in.
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| Quote ="Pemps"He may want to go. He maybe unhappy about the way his best mate was treated.'"
So to react to the fact his best mate has been treated badly, he then moves half way around the world from his best mate to stand up for him?
It may just be Tommy wants a shot at the NRL, he's won SL now so why not go out on a high.
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| Quote ="inside_man"So to react to the fact his best mate has been treated badly, he then moves half way around the world from his best mate to stand up for him?
It may just be Tommy wants a shot at the NRL, he's won SL now so why not go out on a high.'"
I have no inside information what so ever. I'm just speculating as to why he may want to leave, if indeed he does.
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| Quote ="Pemps"I have no inside information what so ever. I'm just speculating as to why he may want to leave, if indeed he does.'"
Fair enough, all I meant was I highly doubt that was the reason anyway. I don't think Tommy would leave as it would leave a gaping hole in our side without an extra quota spot (ignoring Phelps) making it very difficult to fill.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Fair enough, all I meant was I highly doubt that was the reason anyway. I don't think Tommy would leave as it would leave a gaping hole in our side without an extra quota spot (ignoring Phelps) making it very difficult to fill.'"
It could be related to my post at the top of this page.
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| Quote ="Pemps"It could be related to my post at the top of this page.'"
Could be, but from a team point of view surely Phelps, Pryce, Roberts and Leuluai out and Slater in makes little sense.
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| Quote ="Guerrier"Could be, but from a team point of view surely Phelps, Pryce, Roberts and Leuluai out and Slater in makes little sense.'"
I'm sure that any chairman put in this predicament would be torn with indecision.
I agree, we'd obviously need a quality hooker to replace Tommy and Piggy ... but seriously, if you were offered Billy Slater, what would you do?
You'd be mad not to sign him. He'd add 2,000 fans a match with his name alone.
I still think it's pie in the sky. From a Melbourne POV, they'd have nobody left except Cameron Smith. I thought they were supposed to be selling the likes of Finch and Hoffman so they could keep their top 3 together.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I'm sure that any chairman put in this predicament would be torn with indecision.
I agree, we'd obviously need a quality hooker to replace Tommy and Piggy ... but seriously, if you were offered Billy Slater, what would you do?
You'd be mad not to sign him. He'd add 2,000 fans a match with his name alone.
I still think it's pie in the sky. From a Melbourne POV, they'd have nobody left except Cameron Smith. I thought they were supposed to be selling the likes of Finch and Hoffman so they could keep their top 3 together.'"
They are already under the cap aren't they? They've been given the go-ahead to accumulate points again next year haven't they?
I can't see it happening, why would he give up rep honours? You could maybe say it would be just for a year and then go back but would you risk Jarryd Hayne having your position for a year and then trying to get it back?
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