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| Quote ="Famous" then hopefully the trend will be for our better players to go to the NRL.'"
Are you insane? (I was tempted to add 'or just stupid' but I'm not one for insults! )
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| I dont get all this 'lets send all our best players to Australia'
Píss off. I want them to stay here and become Wigan greats, make Super League a better thing to watch, people may argue that sending our best players over there will help them become better players and therefore be better for England RL in the long run but what about Super League? It would die on its árse if all the good players were over there and we were stuck with the average Joes.
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| Quote ="RICHARD5LEGEND"I dont get all this 'lets send all our best players to Australia'
Píss off. I want them to stay here and become Wigan greats, make Super League a better thing to watch, people may argue that sending our best players over there will help them become better players and therefore be better for England RL in the long run but what about Super League? It would die on its árse if all the good players were over there and we were stuck with the average Joes.'"
Exactly! I've said on many occassions that this whole idea is a nonsense anyway. We'll never compete with the Aussies by sending a few players over there. The only way we'd compete is to have a stronger competition for All our players week in week out! Just as an aside, the best performers for GB/England over the years have been the ones who came from the English game not the ones who played in the NRL. Looking at the current team, does anyone think Sam Tomkins or James Graham for example, (or the likes of Peacock and Eastmond had they been there) would suffer in comparison to Widdop, Ellis or Burgess? I very much doubt it. In fact the best players in the Maori game yesterday were Tomkins and Luke Robinson.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Are you insane? (I was tempted to add 'or just stupid' but I'm not one for insults!
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it never stopped you before pal
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Are you insane? (I was tempted to add 'or just stupid' but I'm not one for insults!
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Why, because I would prefer for players to stay in RL, even if that means going to the NRL, than go to Union?
Taking part of a sentence out of context and sticking a full stop at the end to give the impression that the sentence is finished, whilst completely ignoring the rest of the post and the post that I was replying to, is a little silly imo.
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| NRLNEWS have just tweeted thats there is a rumour of Tommy off to Manly. No link or source with it though.
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| Diskin to Bradford.
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| Quote ="AJ"Diskin to Bradford.
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Yeah, seems a strange one that. Unless Potter is going down the 3 hookers like he did at saints.
What about a cheeky bid for léstrange (sp). Wagga has not turned into the player i thought he would so perhaps he is for the chop?
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| I'd have Wagga back. L'estrange is good, but not for us IMO.
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| How is L'estrange not for us ?
would have him anyday of the week over Godwin.
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| Diskin should be the one we need to sign.
L'estrange would be ok but although we have one quota spot left for next season we won’t be able to carry him into the 2012 season. Both Hoffman and Pat are out of contract at the end of next season as well.
We need to recruit English players or produce our own for the next few seasons. Diskin would give us that.
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| L'estrange sucks ball's end of. Any one who's seen a decent amount of Bradford this year will tell you that, an uncreative passenger is all he's been.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"L'estrange sucks ball's end of. Any one who's seen a decent amount of Bradford this year will tell you that, an uncreative passenger is all he's been.'"
You couldnt be more wrong, Heath was our best player in a very poor team, he's brilliant in attack, we just didnt have anyone supporting him, and his defence is awesome, what was he 2nd or 3rd top tackler in the league.
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| Quote ="6Iestyn6"You couldnt be more wrong, Heath was our best player in a very poor team, he's brilliant in attack, we just didnt have anyone supporting him, and his defence is awesome, what was he 2nd or 3rd top tackler in the league.'"
Have to agree, L'estrange is very underated imo, much of his work seems to go unoticed but he has a good rugby brain and organises much of the good work Bradford do.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"L'estrange sucks ball's end of. Any one who's seen a decent amount of Bradford this year will tell you that, an uncreative passenger is all he's been.'"
Are you sure about that?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Are you sure about that?'"
I'm not to sure to be honest. I've no actual evidence to suggest he suck's balls.
As for him being a player I don't rate then yeah I'm pretty steadfast on that.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"I'm not to sure to be honest. I've no actual evidence to suggest he suck's balls.
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| Quote ="dany1979"organises much of the good work Bradford do.'"
And you've killed your own argument.
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| What's everyone's thought's on Bradford's signings for next year? Squad wise they obviously increased depth wise, quality could be a little higher though. I can see a spot for Bradford somewhere between sixth and eighth next year dependent upon injuries to themselves and those around them.
Chev Walker
Shaun Ainscough
Patrick Ah Van
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| Westerman to Hull FC for £175,000? It's doing the rounds anyone heard anything more?
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"What's everyone's thought's on Bradford's signings for next year? Squad wise they obviously increased depth wise, quality could be a little higher though. I can see a spot for Bradford somewhere between sixth and eighth next year dependent upon injuries to themselves and those around them.
Chev Walker
Shaun Ainscough
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Ian Sibbitt
Shad Royston
Gareth Raynor
Matt Diskin'"
It will make them better than this year and with a better coach they should certainly be aiming for the play-offs. It's all about how they gell and how certain players turn out. Ainy could be sensational or shocking, Walker could return to old Leeds form or look like a player after a bad injury, Hargreaves could kick on from his time at saints or flop because he isn't playing along class like Graham and Cunningham, Disking could thrive on being possibley the main hooker or he could take a dive playing around lesser players than his Leeds team mates.
The only ones I think will be certain to have an impact are the two wingers and Elima. Raynor always does the job on the wing and is unlikely to be a weak link (they had too many of those last year). Ah Van has a poor scoring record but could change that if they get the ball to him, like Raynor he is strong and quick.
Elima as I am sure many will agree, he has always impressed me at Catalans but he must cut silly errors and pens.
If the new players can gel and play as well as they can and the 10,000 average has an impact on positivty then I think they could finish as high as 6th, Wigan, Leeds, Saints, Warrington, Hudds are certain to finish above them IMO, Bradfords season could depend on how the Hull clubs go on.
I would love it if Bradford could get back to the big time again.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"What's everyone's thought's on Bradford's signings for next year? Squad wise they obviously increased depth wise, quality could be a little higher though. I can see a spot for Bradford somewhere between sixth and eighth next year dependent upon injuries to themselves and those around them.
Chev Walker
Shaun Ainscough
Patrick Ah Van
Bryn Hargreaves
Olivier Elima
Ian Sibbitt
Shad Royston
Gareth Raynor
Matt Diskin'"
The best signing Bratfud have made is Potter. I think he is a very good coach - you only need to look at what he did with Catalan and despite Stains going through a major transition was still able to get them to GFs. Given the cards he was dealt by Stains I've never really understood why a lot of their fans wanted rid so much. I think they may regret getting Royce Simmons in his place.
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| Bradford have improved numbers and increased quality in some areas, but tbh, their squad was awful last season.
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| Chev Walker- Good Signing doubt he will get back to his Leeds days but not a bad signing.
Shaun Ainscough- Time will tell jury is still out.
Patrick Ah Van- don't know much about him.
Bryn Hargreaves- Decent signing a workhorse if nothing else.
Olivier Elima- Good Signing one of their best signings.
Ian Sibbit- never been much of a standout name not a player your worried to be facing.
Shad Royston- Very strange signing could be a great signing but could also be a terrible signing again time will tell.
Gareth Raynor- knows his way to the try line but to me comes with too much baggage.
Matt Diskin- Probably the best signing the Bulls have made in the close season wether thats a good thing or not i'm not sure.
Chris Nero > Chev Walker
Shaun Ainscough > Rikki Sheriffe (potentially)
Patrick Ah Van > Michael Platt
Andy Lynch > Bryn Hargreaves
Olivier Elima = Glenn Hall
Steve Menzies > Ian Sibbit
Matt Orford > Shad Royston
Gareth Raynor > Stuart Reardon
Matt Diskin > Wayne Godwin
(not suggesting those new signings are replacing all those i've compared just some are its just an observation.)
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