Sorry Cherry but no. Do u seriously think the police can advise a club on how to punish an employee? Not a chance in the world mate. The club have said they took independent advice and reviewed everything twice
to make sure they got it right. If there was genuine evidence of criminal behaviour then the police would have no choice but to present the evidence to the CPS for a charging decision. It appears this has not been the case. We simply don't know for sure what actually happened and we have to trust that the club have maintained their integrity and dealt with what ever happened correctly and hope that those involved learn from this whole sorry event.

I know, It was aimed more at Welsh Wizards comment to be honest. No offence taken here

Wigan have got rid of players in the past who were considered to be pernicious influences.

Gareth Hock and Martin Gleeson spring to mind immediately (both of whom were excellent players) so Wigan are not averse to showing stars the door if their behaviour is deemed to be completely intolerable. Past evidence like this suggests there is no culture at Wigan that bad boys can stay so long as they help us win matches.

Even so we have people, including some Wigan fans - who don't know exactly what happened, despite what they may think - and yet insist that this punishment is inadequate and that something much more public and draconian is called for.

I honestly do not understand this position when people don't have the full facts to hand.

Bateman may leave. It may be that he just can't accept he was in the wrong and resents being disciplined. If so, there is nothing the club can do about that other than seek a very decent transfer fee for him to get the best possible return on their investment. But aside from that, there's no other issue - people need to accept the club's judgement on the matter. It isn't going to change.

Gleason only turned up to training smashed though, he didn't have "fracas" with another player. Hock did but during training and it was settled quickly.

There was a lot more baggage with Gleeson and Hock, "apparently".

Those situations could certainly be described as a powder keg

I mention Gleeson and Hock as proof that there are lines at Wigan which can't be overstepped.

It is patently wrong for people to assume that a player's star status will protect him against repercussions for serious bad behaviour.

Why would we assume the same rigorous standards of assessment have not been applied to Bateman?

Unlike some people on here I actually KNOW what went on that night caslad

So share it then. If its 100% true, then you have no need to fear the legal eagles.

The police weren't involved in the incident only the damage to the gym, it's a separate thing altogether, people should really get their facts right.

I never said the police were involved SS

If you were there then please share and tell us what you saw

You're coming over more and more as one of these 'I know something you don't know' idiots who populate the other Wigan message board.

Also, because you quite clearly have nothing of actual value to add, your sole motivation seems to be to keep stirring the pot.

It's pathetic, mate.

Wrong

10k fine and 8 week ban isn't a slap on the wrist, something bad has happened imo, maybe just maybe it might be best if he moved on, long as its not for us , hes a very very good player but the general opinion is hes a loose cannon

You're concern for the state of our club is touching.

This

I'll wait for the ghost written autobiography to come out I think....

so cruncher I thought this was a rugby forum for discussing rugby issues, wind your neck for goodness sake,

Please don't post any rumour, speculation or "I know what happened" details. Ta.

Of course it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that some one may *know* what happened. But even if that is so, they'd be wise to keep it to themselves, I think.

As for the polis, I don't think that a lack of action from them necessarily means that nothing 'serious' has happened; it could well be a case of "he said, she said", with little chance of a successful prosecution in court.

Without speculating on this particular case - what often happens, especially with drink related offences, is the "victim" tells the police he/she does not wish to press charges and does not want to provide a statement. Police then decide to look at alternative cases more worthy of their time

unless a criminal act (violence) has occurred then they must act themselves

That is incorrect, I know from experience

You're wrong on that one