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| Quote ="Cruncher"Yes, I can imagine that would suit Sale very nicely. You can hear them now, can't you?
"Okay, Wigan ... does this sound like a plan? We'll take advantage of your high level adminsitrative and marketing skills, your cutting edge coaching knowledge, your century long rugby tradition, your teak tough blue-collar philosophy, your plethora of talented players (especially the young ones) and your massive crowd support. In return, you can take advantage of our middle class south Manchester location, which has been yearning for the arrival of an exciting, go-ahead club like yours. The new name of this joint venture will be 'Wigan and Sale Sharks', which of course will change again five years from now to 'Sale Sharks'. "
Let's go for it. I mean, what have we got to lose?'"
So is that a no?
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Yes, I can imagine that would suit Sale very nicely. You can hear them now, can't you?
"Okay, Wigan ... does this sound like a plan? We'll take advantage of your high level adminsitrative and marketing skills, your cutting edge coaching knowledge, your century long rugby tradition, your teak tough blue-collar philosophy, your plethora of talented players (especially the young ones) and your massive crowd support. In return, you can take advantage of our [umiddle class south Manchester location[/u, which has been yearning for the arrival of an exciting, go-ahead club like yours. The new name of this joint venture will be 'Wigan and Sale Sharks', which of course will change again five years from now to 'Sale Sharks'. "
Let's go for it. I mean, what have we got to lose?'"
I take it you've not been to edgley park recently - .
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"So is that a no?
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| Quote ="exiled Warrior"I take it you've not been to edgley park recently -
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I played there once, but that was decades ago.
I know what you mean, however.
Perhaps Sale's real plan is to turf us out and groundshare the DW with Latics?
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| one of matt diskin`s posts on twitter stated he had been in Northampton for the day , clue maybe ?
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| Quote ="jameswk"one of matt diskin`s posts on twitter stated he had been in Northampton for the day , clue maybe ?'"
Maybe he's been asking Chris Ashton what its like at Wigan?
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| I've heard a rumour DWSports are sponsoring us next season. Anyone else heard anything?
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| Quote ="Dei Morti Viventi"I've heard a rumour DWSports are sponsoring us next season. Anyone else heard anything?'"
Ho Ho Ho were getting closer on here lol!
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| Quote ="RICHARD5LEGEND"Where is the land?'"
up behind Taybarns is what i've been told which i beleive said controversial sign is up there aswell isn't it
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| [urlhttp://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/archive/2010/07/17/Oxford+news+%28om_oxfordnews%29/8277653.United_half_way_to_buying_stadium__owner_tells_fans/[/url
Sounds familiar
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| If we're going to build a new stadium then the time is now, with construction companies going bust left right and centre the build cost won't be as much as in previous years.
I had no idea IL owned Oxford United, maybe he sees that club as a major investment, get them competing in a decent Division a flog them to fund Wigan RLs new stadium and dominance for years to come.
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| Quote ="RICHARD5LEGEND"Maybe he's been asking Chris Ashton what its like at Wigan?
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No thanks, Mickey Mac is much better
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"Ho Ho Ho were getting closer on here lol!'"
please elaborate
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| Quote ="WIGAN NUT"please elaborate'"
I hate to keep doing this but all I can say is that the latest one is closer. Not quite on
(with what I'm led to believe is happening) it doesn't mean it's true. Don't all come back in a few weeks asking why I led u on if nothing happened. Can only presume what I've been told is true.
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| And just to add
It isn't anything to get overly excited about lol
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| Quote ="the-Bowtun-Warrior"And just to add
It isn't anything to get overly excited about lol'"
why call it a massive announcement then ?
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"why call it a massive announcement then ?
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It's an impending new sponsorship deal I believe.
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| Quote ="MattyB"It's an impending new sponsorship deal I believe.'"
If its putting good money into the club.I will be happy
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"why call it a massive announcement then ?
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I'm not.
I'm presuming This isn't that none-existent big announcement!
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| I dont know how true this is, but my mate in Aus who has connections with an NRL team claims this NRL team has been in touch with Sam Tomkins or his management or something to see if he would be interested in the NRL if they could work something out with Wigan. His response. Not for all the money in the world. Im at wigan for life.
I always take everything I hear with a pinch of salt but just passing it on. Not the fact that he said hes at wigan for life cos I can see that being true, but more the story of an NRL club being in touch.
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| Quote ="MacBlondie"I dont know how true this is, but my mate in Aus who has connections with an NRL team claims this NRL team has been in touch with Sam Tomkins or his management or something to see if he would be interested in the NRL if they could work something out with Wigan. His response. Not for all the money in the world. Im at wigan for life.
I always take everything I hear with a pinch of salt but just passing it on. Not the fact that he said hes at wigan for life cos I can see that being true, but more the story of an NRL club being in touch.'"
I think it depends on how things go at Wigan and of course on how much he continues to develop.
If he continues to interest Aussie clubs, and if he wins a few trophies at Wigan - in other words, if he feels he's done everything he can in British club rugby - then it may be difficult keeping him away from the NRL. It wouldn't necessarily even be right to try - a sportsman surely should be allowed to test himself against the best he can find.
So long as he does a good few years at Wigan first, I wouldn't resent him for that. I'd much rather he went to the NRL than went to RU.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I think it depends on how things go at Wigan and of course on how much he continues to develop.
If he continues to interest Aussie clubs, and if he wins a few trophies at Wigan - in other words, if he feels he's done everything he can in British club rugby - then it may be difficult keeping him away from the NRL. It wouldn't necessarily even be right to try - a sportsman surely should be allowed to test himself against the best he can find.
So long as he does a good few years at Wigan first, I wouldn't resent him for that. I'd much rather he went to the NRL than went to RU.'"
Thats my thoughts entirely. I think that part of the reason Robinson, Paul etc went to Union is because they had done everything there was to do in League at such a young age and it was just all a little stale. The international game was also a mess at this time. With the likes of Ellis and Burgess doing well in the NRL, and getting paid very well too, then hopefully the trend will be for our better players to go to the NRL if they feel they have done all they can in the English game.
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| Neither Robinson or Paul played in the best rugby league domestic competition, the NRL. Both could have opted to prove themselves in the top league in the world yet they chose to move to union. For me both went for one reason and it wasn't because they'd achieved all they could in rugby league.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Neither Robinson or Paul played in the best rugby league domestic competition, the NRL. Both could have opted to prove themselves in the top league in the world yet they chose to move to union. For me both went for one reason and it wasn't because they'd achieved all they could in rugby league.'"
In Robinson and Paul's era no one went to the NRL for a decade or so, largely because English players werent wanted as English RL was in such a bad state at this time. Paul has certainly never been rated in Australia. Also I know for a fact that part of the reason Robinson left was because there was nothing else to do in RL, in addition to being messed about by Wigan. Yes money was a factor why they went to Union but I think thats a little too simplistic especially when comparing different eras.
In Robinson and Paul's era the NRL wasnt really a career option as it is now where NRL clubs are actively pursuing English players. This is allied with a very favourable exchange rate for those playing in Australia which means players dont have to take a huge pay cut as in the past. Most importantly is the fact that the NRL salary cap is going up all the time and it is going to go up an awful lot in the next couple of years with the new TV deal. In a few years the money on offer in the NRL will be much more than in England and will match if not better what Union offers. With overseas agents etc with contacts in Australia I know young players now who talk of going to the NRL for a couple of years for the experience and the challenge. If it works out and they like it they may stay, if not they can simply come back. If Wigan have a period of sustained success and the likes of Tomkins, Mossop, Farrell, Goulding etc have repeatedly won all they can win by their mid 20s then they more than likely will want to look elsewhere and the NRL will be far more attractive and accomodating than it was 10 years ago.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Get serious.
At the moment we pay around £200K per year to rent the DW.
The cost of building a new stadium is around £20 million, the equivalent of 100 YEARS rent.
It isn't going to happen, and as long as we have a good agreement for the DW it shouldn't. It's o.k looking at turnover, but you need to look at costs and profit.
How long would it take to recover the £20 million costs of building a stadium?'"
The biggest issue RL clubs would have is securing funding without a cash rich partner. What assets do they have to use as security? Look at the recent builds; KC - funded by the Local Authority, Halliwell Jones - funded by Tesco, the impending Saints ground - funded via Tesco by their development partner.
As you quite rightly point out, it would be commercial madness to contemplate such a build, even before the mechanics of the process are considered.
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