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| Quote ="stubblesteve"least we own our stadium
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Er. So do we.
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| Quote ="WWRLFC78"
Like I said before, I'm not saying Warrington V Wigan or Warrington V Saints will ever become the 'derby game' but everyone has to recognise, those games have been very entertaining and unexpected!'"
Let's hope it continues. I hope the top 4 continues to have Lancashire sides involved because that will make for some pretty special play off encounters this year.
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| Yes we do own our stadium. And away fans are very safe and welcome.
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"Er. So do we.'"
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"No, my definition of a big club (and the same definition of most of the people I know) is based on the total amount achieved since it's formation combined with the support base of the club.
Liverpool in football would still be a big club even taking away any honours other than domestic League championships, which they haven't won since 89-90, coupled with their excellent support, 18 wins makes them a big club even if they go another 20 years without winning one.
In the trophies that mattered most to Rugby League fans, Warrington's 3 championships and 6 challenge cups isn't quite there yet.'"
So basically your criteria of a big club filters out everyone other than Saints & Wigan? I mean, can we be specific now just so I can weigh up how long its going to take Warrington to become a big club? Exactly how many Championships / Leagues and Challenge Cup wins = a big club?
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| Quote ="WWRLFC78"So basically your criteria of a big club filters out everyone other than Saints & Wigan? I mean, can we be specific now just so I can weigh up how long its going to take Warrington to become a big club? Exactly how many Championships / Leagues and Challenge Cup wins = a big club?'"
In time mate... in time...
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| Quote ="WWRLFC78"other than the customary 'big 4' (Wigan, Saints, Bradford & Leeds). Hull were the most recent outside of the big 4 but now Warrington join that club. What exactly is the defenition of a small club?'"
size of club:
Support Base
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Success on the field
History + well known outside of RL heartlands
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Your stadium is that of a middling club (only 13k)
Your history is nowhere near wigan saints etc
Your main rival is in NL1
Quote ="WWRLFC78"I'm sorry guys, we are just as big as you two. If it goes off season tickets sold again, we are up there.......away fans.....again, up in maybe the top 4, average attendances at home.......again up there with the biggest.'"
far away from the leaders leeds, hull, wigan im afraid and weve not even had any big games at home
Quote If the size of your club is measured on percentage of salary cap spent every year'"
No, anyone can have a rich backer
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Nope
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| One question
Why do Wigan and Saints fans spend so much time discussing Warrington if you think that they are insignificant?
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| Quote ="WarriorSteve"Maybe you should read my second post were I mentioned Warrington as a "small time club"...... you wires certainly know how to take the bate!.. I did put the "laughing smiley" after the comment.. but it still didn't stop all you wires biting...
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Check out 'Steve Ella's Beard's' reply rearding big / small clubs. You may have been joking, he is not!
And not all Wires took the bait, just me seemingly!
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| Quote ="shambawangy"
Your main rival is in NL1
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And boy did we enjoy enjoy relegating them! They are in NL1? Not our problem m8!
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| Quote ="WWRLFC78"Check out 'Steve Ella's Beard's' reply rearding big / small clubs. You may have been joking, he is not!
And not all Wires took the bait, just me seemingly!'"
It wasn't just you..
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| Quote ="TheDoc"One question
Why do Wigan and Saints fans spend so much time discussing Warrington if you think that they are insignificant?'"
So much time? 1 thread on a Monday afternoon, stop kidding yourself
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| Quote ="TheDoc"One question
Why do Wigan and Saints fans spend so much time discussing Warrington if you think that they are insignificant?'"
It passes the time brilliantly. I wouldn't go trolling on the Warrington board though.
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| Warrington, they are a lovely LITTLE club....
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| Quote ="TheDoc"One question
Why do Wigan and Saints fans spend so much time discussing Warrington if you think that they are insignificant?'"
Its been a slow news day... Yet another wigan win at the weekend and top of the league Still.. something you "small clubs" can only dream about!
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"Er. So do we.'"
I Support warrington. were on the same side or am I missing something
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| Quote ="WWRLFC78"So basically your criteria of a big club filters out everyone other than Saints & Wigan? I mean, can we be specific now just so I can weigh up how long its going to take Warrington to become a big club? Exactly how many Championships / Leagues and Challenge Cup wins = a big club?'"
No, Leeds get there as well (7&11), Bradford are pushing it (6&5) by the additions during the Super League Era. Hull FC for their ongoing big fanbase. How many big clubs do you think there can actually be? 2? 4? 6? 10?..... you have to draw the line somewhere, just don't expect me to draw it in the same place as you.
At the end of the day mate, you can class your own club as whatever the hell you like, and you can try to promote your own rivalries as more important than others - Just don't expect the clubs that you're trying to get under the skin of to treat you in the way you'd like, just because you've looked in a mirror and said "oooow i'm actually quite a hottie".
Wigan and Saints are huge rivals for everything that's gone on between the 2 clubs in the post war era (not just the trophy haul between them)
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| Quote ="stubblesteve"I Support warrington. were on the same side or am I missing something
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I think it was your avatar with the wolf infront of the moon that gave it away
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| Quote ="WWRLFC78"Check out 'Steve Ella's Beard's' reply rearding big / small clubs. You may have been joking, he is not!
And not all Wires took the bait, just me seemingly!'"
It's a thread about Rivalry, it was suggested that Wigan's lack of trophies during the superleague Era (still double Wires, and many many more finals/semi appearances) apparently made Wigan not a big club anymore. If we're not a big club, then you're fecking clown shoes mate. If however we're a big club, then Warrington are indeed right up there.
Come dishing crap out, expect a truckload back.
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"No, Leeds get there as well (7&11), Bradford are pushing it (6&5) by the additions during the Super League Era. Hull FC for their ongoing big fanbase. How many big clubs do you think there can actually be? 2? 4? 6? 10?..... you have to draw the line somewhere, just don't expect me to draw it in the same place as you.
At the end of the day mate, you can class your own club as whatever the hell you like, and you can try to promote your own rivalries as more important than others - Just don't expect the clubs that you're trying to get under the skin of to treat you in the way you'd like, just because you've looked in a mirror and said "oooow i'm actually quite a hottie".
Wigan and Saints are huge rivals for everything that's gone on between the 2 clubs in the post war era (not just the trophy haul between them)'"
Not trying to get under anyones skin mate!! Like I said earlier, Warrington are after recognition only! We are not a small club. Surely any team who achieved a grade 'A' in the Superleague franchising criteria cannot be classed as a small team?
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"It's a thread about Rivalry, it was suggested that Wigan's lack of trophies during the superleague Era (still double Wires, and many many more finals/semi appearances) apparently made Wigan not a big club anymore. If we're not a big club, then you're fecking clown shoes mate. If however we're a big club, then Warrington are indeed right up there.
Come dishing crap out, expect a truckload back.[/
Remind me where I said Wigan wasn't a big club?
I think you need some sleep.
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| Warrington are obviously a sizable club and with the money they're investing getting bigger all the time.
That said, as someone rightly pointed out earlier, they're just that annoying little kid trying to butt in on the big boys' (Saints/Wigan) rivalry.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Even though i hate saints you have to respect them with what theyve achieved, theyre worthy rivals imo. Warrington just arent worthy of being mentioned in the same bracket and never will be. =#FF0080Warrington are a club trying to buy their way up but it aint gonna happen.'"
This from a wigan fan, brilliant
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| Anyway folks I think bedtime for you all. Goodnight. We'll let you continue this discussion on July 12th.
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