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| Quote ="markyp3172"maywell be...
but it came from a family member of a current 1st team player.
I find it hard to believe but why would a player make something like this up?'"
Yeah, but why would he play for Wigan if it was true?
I know I wouldn't.
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| So Lenagan takes 320K per year off the players?
20% of £1.6 million.
Nice work if you can get it.
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| I've heard some bull on here in my time but that tops the lot of it
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| Quote ="FIOS"I've heard some bull poop on here in my time but that tops the lot of it
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Roll on January, let's get some rugby played.
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| So last year he was "trousering" the transfer monies. And now he is taking back money from players!
Well as far as conspiracy theories go its a new one. But i guess evil lairs in hollowed out volcanos dont just pay for themselves.
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| Quote ="markyp3172"maywell be...
but it came from a family member of a current 1st team player.
I find it hard to believe but why would a player make something like this up?'"
Thinking about it, it goes a long way to expalining how Gelling got a new contract if he's paying backhanders to the chairmen.
Out of interest do you also think the moon landings were faked, the world is flat, the Loch Ness Monster exists, the FBI shot JFK or that David Icke is the son of God because they all have about the same amount of creditability as your story.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Thinking about it, it goes a long way to expalining how Gelling got a new contract if he's paying backhanders to the chairmen.
Out of interest do you also think the moon landings were faked, the world is flat, the Loch Ness Monster exists, the FBI shot JFK or that David Icke is the son of God because they all have about the same amount of creditability as your story.'"
1, 3 and 4 are all true aren't they?
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| Quote ="markyp3172"maywell be...
but it came from a family member of a current 1st team player.
I find it hard to believe but why would a player make something like this up?'"
Perhaps he was taking the hiss? Even now he is still on the floor rolling over, holding his sides, after reading your post.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"
Out of interest do you also think the moon landings were faked, the world is flat, the Loch Ness Monster exists, the FBI shot JFK or that David Icke is the son of God because they all have about the same amount of creditability as your story.'"
FWIW I didn't say i believed it but dont shoot the messenger - i have only passed on what i have been told. I wouldn't normally bother with it but where it has come from i thought i would put it in the public domain.
Out of Interest what players have left in the last couple of years ...to name but a few
Hock - fell out with Wane - now @ Salford = apparently more £
Mosop - new challenge(!) - now in NRL = apparently more £
Joel - new challenge(!) - now in RU = apparently more £
Sam - new challenge(!) - now in NRL = more £
Pat - new challenge(!) - now in NRL = apparently more £
HH - new challenge(!) - CONFIRMED @ salford = "He will get a huge contract out of the move" Kris R.
Funny how it appears the money is the contributing factor to them all leaving.
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| Quote ="markyp3172"FWIW I didn't say i believed it but dont shoot the messenger - i have only passed on what i have been told. I wouldn't normally bother with it but where it has come from i thought i would put it in the public domain.
Out of Interest what players have left in the last couple of years ...to name but a few
Hock - fell out with Wane - now @ Salford = apparently more £
Mosop - new challenge(!) - now in NRL = apparently more £
Joel - new challenge(!) - now in RU = apparently more £
Sam - new challenge(!) - now in NRL = more £
Pat - new challenge(!) - now in NRL = apparently more £
HH - new challenge(!) - CONFIRMED @ salford = "He will get a huge contract out of the move" Kris R.
Funny how it appears the money is the contributing factor to them all leaving.'"
So would you have kept them all and matched their offers? If so how?
If not which ones would you have kept and how would you have funded their salaries?
Pat went home as it suited his family (childrens education)
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| Quote ="markyp3172"FWIW I didn't say i believed it but dont shoot the messenger - i have only passed on what i have been told. I wouldn't normally bother with it but where it has come from i thought i would put it in the public domain.
Out of Interest what players have left in the last couple of years ...to name but a few
Hock - fell out with Wane - now @ Salford = apparently more £
Mosop - new challenge(!) - now in NRL = apparently more £
Joel - new challenge(!) - now in RU = apparently more £
Sam - new challenge(!) - now in NRL = more £
Pat - new challenge(!) - now in NRL = apparently more £
HH - new challenge(!) - CONFIRMED @ salford = "He will get a huge contract out of the move" Kris R.
Funny how it appears the money is the contributing factor to them all leaving.'"
Of course it is money. You dont actually believe all this "going for the challenge" rubbish that is spouted do you?
Do you think these players would be taking the challege on if it was for half the money? Would they balls!
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| plus the likes of Hampshire, Williams, Powell, Tierney, Burke etc etc who are coming through will have had to have been offered improved deals to keep them as they would have been targets for maybe half the other clubs in superleague.. The club are spreading the cap amongst a strong squad, not just a couple of top players as per 2002-2007 which was not a good time in the clubs history
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| so the better players will be targets as they know they can get more money in the NRL/Union or at other clubs who have a smaller number of top players so have more to spend on them.
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| Quote ="markyp3172"FWIW I didn't say i believed it but dont shoot the messenger - i have only passed on what i have been told. I wouldn't normally bother with it but where it has come from i thought i would put it in the public domain.
Out of Interest what players have left in the last couple of years ...to name but a few
Hock - fell out with Wane - now @ Salford = apparently more £
Mosop - new challenge(!) - now in NRL = apparently more £
Joel - new challenge(!) - now in RU = apparently more £
Sam - new challenge(!) - now in NRL = more £
Pat - new challenge(!) - now in NRL = apparently more £
HH - new challenge(!) - CONFIRMED @ salford = "He will get a huge contract out of the move" Kris R.
Funny how it appears the money is the contributing factor to them all leaving.'"
Players nearly always leave for money. I'm not sure how this proves, or even supports the belief, that at Wigan you are required to give some of your wages Back.
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| IL must be making an absolute fortune out of Wigan. He's trousering all the transfer money and now running some sort of protection racket were he takes 20% off everyone. Minted.
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| Quote ="Pemps"IL must be making an absolute fortune out of Wigan. He's trousering all the transfer money and now running some sort of protection racket were he takes 20% off everyone. Minted.'"
who said you can't make money as an owner of a super league club.
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| Quote ="dubairl"who said you can't make money as an owner of a super league club.'"
I'm gonna go and buy one. License to print money...
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"So would you have kept them all and matched their offers? If so how?
If not which ones would you have kept and how would you have funded their salaries?
Pat went home as it suited his family (childrens education)'"
exactly money - players only earn for a short time so they try and get as much as possible over a career. Now with that in mind IF and i only posted the comment originally about the 20% because of where it came from, if players are not recieving what they percieve they are worth they will leave.
At the end of the day you and I, everyone on here is a fan, where as the club is a business and it needs to make money to survive. The days of playing for your hometown club for the love of the club are the differnce between a fan on here and a player looking to make it.
IMO the club have done right by letting certain players go at certain times, what grips my S%!T is when a player who is earning a decent crust for playing a game that most people if they had the ability would love to do, dont put the effort in.
My original comment was about something that was told to me by a players family and i have shared it - enough gibberish is spouted on here without me makiing rubbish up like this.
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| I don't think anybody on here is questioning wether you have been told this or not but whoever told you that is yanking your chain bud. there is no way a player would sign a contract for a certain amount of salary only for it to be taxed 20 percent from IL, why wouldn't he just offer them 20 percent less? or if he isn't paying players what they have signed for we would be facing a lot of court dates. maybe this players family hasn't been told the full story maybe its for a private pension? but 20 percent of your salary would still be a massive amount to pay into any financial products and you would still be given the option.
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| The amount of people who don't understand the breakdown on their pay slips is staggering.
This 20% sounds suspiciously like the amount of income tax a player would pay!!!
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"The amount of people who don't understand the breakdown on their pay slips is staggering.
This 20% sounds suspiciously like the amount of income tax a player would pay!!!'"
Plus, IL makes the tax man look generous (apparently)
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| No wonder IFL doesn't post on here anymore
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| Quote ="FIOS"No wonder IFL doesn't post on here anymore'"
He's too busy swimming in his pools of trousered money
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| Quote ="Grimmy"He's too busy swimming in his pools of trousered money
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Just like this guy
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