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| Quote ="Cruncher"Personally, I think it would push Maguire's nose out too much. He must now believe that he's done enough to earn our trust. To bring someone else in - his former boss, especially - in a kind of consultancy role, would surely be embarrassing for him, even if it was only for a short stint.'"
I did say in my post above that is not worth Madge looking at.
I don't think IL should be looking at it as this is Madge's area of control and it would also lead to a lot of issues like you mentioned above. I wouldn’t want anyone to go over Maguire’s head on this.
Now if Madge wanted to go for it i can't see a problem in it.
Nothing ventured nothing gained i guess is the way i'm looking at this.
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| Absolutely disgraceful, im just glad they got the punishment they deserved, and im glad that they cant gain any more points this year and will finish bottom. Feel sorry for the Melbourne fans though, but the club only has themsleves to blame.
Romours are though, that there may be a few other teams who have been doing the same.
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| How have they managed to get away with it on FOUR occasions?
Shocking. You'd be devastated as a fan (and player if you were unaware I guess)
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| Quote ="Nick NJ"Only if you lost
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| One fan has dumped all his Melbourne gear outside the stadium.
Not what the game worldwide, or a key NRL franchise (with a new stadium on the way) needed.
Just been discussed on talksport after the sports news. RL emerged with great credit for the other clubs accepting it with dignity and the NRL for dishing out a proper punishment.
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| Suppose it was only a matter of time. The RFL auditors must surely know be swarming over Wire’s accounts like pigeons on a chip.
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| Quote ="AJ"One fan has dumped all his Melbourne gear outside the stadium.
Not what the game worldwide, or a key NRL franchise (with a new stadium on the way) needed.
Just been discussed on talksport after the sports news. RL emerged with great credit for the other clubs accepting it with dignity and the NRL for dishing out a proper punishment.'"
Talksport mentioned rugby league?
You listen to Talksport?
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| Quote ="Conroy"How have they managed to get away with it on FOUR occasions?
Shocking. You'd be devastated as a fan (and player if you were unaware I guess)'"
Thats what everyone would love to know. I understand they have been running sperate accounts so as to hide them, but how could that go unnoticed for so long???
Well done to the NRL for giving them the punishment the deserve but what we really need to know is how they could get away with it for so long.
What fans are going to go and watch them this year knowing that they cant actually get any points and none of the games mean anything???
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| Quote ="Jimmy Birts Lives On"Suppose it was only a matter of time. The RFL auditors must surely know be swarming over Wire’s accounts like pigeons on a chip.'"
Why?
Surely they'd focus on a club who have already been caught doing exactly what Melbourne were doing by having two different contracts for players. One declared to the Salary Cap Audit and a different real one. It becomes unfortunate when a careless agent faxes the wrong one to the RFL though.
At least Melbourne have been punished in a manner that befits cheats.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Talksport mentioned rugby league?
You listen to Talksport?
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Why?
Surely they'd focus on a club who have already been caught doing exactly what Melbourne were doing by having two different contracts for players. One declared to the Salary Cap Audit and a different real one. It becomes unfortunate when a careless agent faxes the wrong one to the RFL though.
At least Melbourne have been punished in a manner that befits cheats.'"
But Melbourne had no previous history IIRC, so had the Aussie salary cap "police" focussed on previous "law breakers" then maybe Melbourne may have got away with it for a while longer.
Has it been disclosed yet how they were "found out"?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But Melbourne had no previous history IIRC, so had the Aussie salary cap "police" focussed on previous "law breakers" then maybe Melbourne may have got away with it for a while longer.
Has it been disclosed yet how they were "found out"?'"
Madge grassed on them so we can buy Inglis, Smith, Slater, Blair and Cronk.
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| Quote ="AJ"I dont mind Hawksbee & Jacobs in the afternoon's. They are both RL fans and give the sport a fair go. The rest of the station is cr@p and its presenters idiots.'"
True, I think H&J have both been to the CC final, Adrian Durham lived in Hull for a while and follows the game, Ronnie Irani always sticks up for RL when Alan Brazil 'waffles' on about union, but in general the sport gets little decent coverage.
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| Quote ="Deano G"
We and the Aussies need a system that rewards player development, gives clubs an incentive to grow crowds and revenues and stops clubs from spending too much (whether on players or stadiums or whatever). That's the kind of system I'd like to see both leagues adopt.'"
or you could have a system were-by if you spend on your stadium to impove it you could be rewarded by having your SC increased so you could keep/attract the best players
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But Melbourne had no previous history IIRC, so had the Aussie salary cap "police" focussed on previous "law breakers" then maybe Melbourne may have got away with it for a while longer.
Has it been disclosed yet how they were "found out"?'"
Cant remember why they were being investigated or whether it was just a rountine check but this is the quote that explains how they got caught out....
NRL chief executive David Gallop Quote "The breakthrough in the investigation was the discovery by the salary cap auditor and his team of a file in a seperate room at the Storm to the room that contained the file with the players contracts, outlining payments to the players not declared to us.
"Theses payments have allowed them to recruit and retain some of the best players in the game. The results of their practices on the field speak for themselves.'"
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| Any mention of the 'spirit' of the cap ??
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| Quote ="chatham warrior"or you could have a system were-by if you spend on your stadium to impove it you could be rewarded by having your SC increased so you could keep/attract the best players
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That would be bad for Wigan, Hull and Huddersfield as they don't own a stadium to improve.
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Any mention of the 'spirit' of the cap ??'"
I think we are way beyond breaking the spirit of the cap with what melbourn have done. This is downright cheating....
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"I think we are way beyond breaking the spirit of the cap with what melbourn have done. This is downright cheating....'"
Errrm, I know, It was meant to be sarcastic................
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| Quote ="AJ"I dont mind Hawksbee & Jacobs in the afternoon's. They are both RL fans and give the sport a fair go. The rest of the station is cr@p and its presenters idiots.'"
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| [url=http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/22/2880568.htm?site=sport§ion=rugbyleagueThe club knew they'd been found out 9 days ago.[/url
[iBut it appears the man being held responsible for most of the damage has already gone, with John Hartigan - the chairman of News Limited which owns the Storm and half of the NRL - labelling former Storm chief executive Brian Waldron the "architect".
"He's the centre, and while it's early days, he appears to be the architect of the whole shooting match," Hartigan said of Waldron, who now heads up the Melbourne Rebels Super 15 franchise.[/i
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| [url=http://www.watoday.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/stars-to-go-as-cap-cuts-bite-20100422-tfya.htmlStars to go as cap cuts bite.[/url
THE premierships, the proud history, the hard-earned respect gained from two premierships from the past four grand finals have all been ripped from the Melbourne Storm.
Now the players - the superstars, in particular - who had often spoken about their wish to stick together as a one-team band to form something special in Melbourne are likely to be the next to go, according to board chairman Rob Moodie.
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Ronnie Irani.'"
Wigan fan is Ronnie.
Can we release loads of players on loan and bring Slater in for next week?
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