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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Just looking at the odds for the Final and I can't believe that wire have been made favorites, I mean come on the tables shows that the Giants are the better side and there performance on Sunday proved that. The wire pack destroyed are's on Saturday however they won't do that to Huddersfield in the final, in fact the exact opposite may happen and for this reason along with there fantastic defense I'd back the Giants to win.'" Did you back Wigan to win last sat?
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| Quote ="Chris McKean"I'm sorry, but there is no way their pack will destroy ours. They have a good pack but ours is still better.'"
Well that's your opinion but it ain't mine, for me Huddersfield have the better pack, there's not much in it but they have the edge plus there style of play will match up against yours well.
Quote ="manco"Did you back Wigan to win last sat?'"
Funnily enough I did back my team to win last week, but only if they managed to get on top of the wire pack, they didn't and we know what happened.
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| Fair enough if that's your opinion. Would you mind explaining yourself though
They have the edge on the interchange, mainly due to Crabtree, and I haven't listed them below but I think our starting options more than cover that
Adrian Morley - 8 - Keith Mason
Michael Monaghan - 9 - Scott Moore
Gareth Carvell - 10 - Darrell Griffin
Louis Anderson - 11 - Stephen Wild
Ben Harrison - 12 - Liam Fulton
Ben Westwood - 13 - David Faiumu
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| Quote ="Wire_85"ROBINSON starting a thread like this I am shocked
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Not overly subtle is he?
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"
Funnily enough I did back my team to win last week, but only if they managed to get on top of the wire pack, they didn't and we know what happened.'" So you believed that there was a chance that Fielden and the bouncy castle in the skull-cap would dominate Morley and Carvell???????? Better for us if you do back Hudds you sad deluded man!
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| Quote ="Chris McKean"Fair enough if that's your opinion. Would you mind explaining yourself though
They have the edge on the interchange, mainly due to Crabtree, and I haven't listed them below but I think our starting options more than cover that
Adrian Morley - 8 - Keith Mason
Michael Monaghan - 9 - Scott Moore
Gareth Carvell - 10 - Darrell Griffin
Louis Anderson - 11 - Stephen Wild
Ben Harrison - 12 - Liam Fulton
Ben Westwood - 13 - David Faiumu'"
The packs are very close like I said, I suppose when comparing the starting individuals they are nearly even, you've got the edge in Morley, Harrison and Westwood but the Giant's take the others, and like you say the Giants bench in just that little bit stronger. One of the reasons in which I don't think you'll get on top of them like you did us is due to the style the giants play, against us Morley and Carvell ran it in hard finding there feet quickly with Monaghan using the quick ball to exploit the unset markers and defensive line, however against the Giants they'll slow you down a lot, not allowing Morley and Carvell to get those quick play off the balls that Monaghan exploited so well against Wigan.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"The packs are very close like I said, I suppose when comparing the starting individuals they are nearly even, you've got the edge in Morley, Harrison and Westwood but the Giant's take the others, and like you say the Giants bench in just that little bit stronger. One of the reasons in which I don't think you'll get on top of them like you did us is due to the style the giants play, against us Morley and Carvell ran it in hard finding there feet quickly with Monaghan using the quick ball to exploit the unset markers and defensive line, however against the Giants they'll slow you down a lot, not allowing Morley and Carvell to get those quick play off the balls that Monaghan exploited so well against Wigan.'" a lot depends on the ref if its Ganson he won't let them get away with it, siverwood mind...................
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Yes there was a chance that Fielden and the bouncy castle as you put it had a chance of getting on top of the wire pack, it may have been a very slim chance but it was there '" I was simply pointing out that your summation (big word there, not thick) of the wires chances might be coming from a person whose opinions are clouded by bitterness not somebody who is being completely subjective, and if you thought wigans pack could match the wires you clearly aren't.
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| Quote ="Chris McKean"Fair enough if that's your opinion. Would you mind explaining yourself though
They have the edge on the interchange, mainly due to Crabtree, and I haven't listed them below but I think our starting options more than cover that
Adrian Morley - 8 - Keith Mason
Michael Monaghan - 9 - Scott Moore
Gareth Carvell - 10 - Darrell Griffin
Louis Anderson - 11 - Stephen Wild
Ben Harrison - 12 - Liam Fulton
Ben Westwood - 13 - David Faiumu'"
2 of the top 4 forward packs.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"Billinge Wire was only responding to Robinson's ridiculous position. If Wiganers decide to support a Yorkshire team that's up to them, but don't give us the old 'it's because Wire are arrogant' routine. The only arrogance is yours not being able to accept that you don't have a God-given right to win a trophy every year.'"
In all honesty, i dont personally care who wins the final.
Sort Of Cheshire v Yawkshurr? Makes no difference to me [size=75[i(even though i do live in the pretty part of Cheshire these days!)[/i[/size
It aint us And it aint Saints - So it matters not one bit!
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| Quote ="Leyland Warrior"In all honesty, i dont personally care who wins the final.
Sort Of Cheshire v Yawkshurr? Makes no difference to me [size=75[i(even though i do live in the pretty part of Cheshire these days!)[/i[/size
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"Yes, to rugby league fans. But AS I SAID IN THE OP, what about the general public?
Or don't you care?'"
Why would anyone in the general public, i.e. not rugby league fans, care if Wigan and Saints are not there? Your question is a little mundane and pointless and tbh very disrespectful, why can't some fans from the so called "big four" not understand that this fixture demonstrates that rugby league may be becoming more competitive in this country, which can only be good for the game and it's profile
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| Quote ="Hardcore Legend"Why would anyone in the general public, i.e. not rugby league fans, care if Wigan and Saints are not there? Your question is a little mundane and pointless and tbh very disrespectful, why can't some fans from the so called "big four" not understand that this fixture demonstrates that rugby league may be becoming more competitive in this country, which can only be good for the game and it's profile'"
As a fan of Rugby League in general - Its difficult to argue your point 'cos you're dead right.
As a hard-hearted Wigan fan though - Losing to Dire in the Semi still sucks!
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| Quote ="Hardcore Legend"Why would anyone in the general public, i.e. not rugby league fans, care if Wigan and Saints are not there? Your question is a little mundane and pointless and tbh very disrespectful, why can't some fans from the so called "big four" not understand that this fixture demonstrates that rugby league may be becoming more competitive in this country, which can only be good for the game and it's profile'" Wigan are no longer one of the "big four" mate, Think Kevin Costner, big in the ninetees but not getting any starring roles anymore and no one really cares or pays any attention to what he does anyway!
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| Quote ="manco"Wigan are no longer one of the "big four" mate, Think Kevin Costner, big in the ninetees but not getting any starring roles anymore and no one really cares or pays any attention to what he does anyway!'"
Then why are you on here.....??
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| Quote ="Leyland Warrior"Then why are you on here.....??
'" Just enjoying Wigans demise and maybe, just maybe some of the wigan fans realisations that they really aren't a force anymore.................oh warry warry.........................w@#ky w@#ky w@#ky w@#ky warrington!
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| Quote ="manco"Just enjoying Wigans demise and maybe, just maybe some of the wigan fans realisations that they really aren't a force anymore.................oh warry warry.........................w@#ky w@#ky w@#ky w@#ky warrington!
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is there an echo in here.......
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| how dare wigan fans compare themselfs with saints, leeds, bulls in the modern game your just another run of the mill rugby club your not as big as you think anymore
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| In the old days the rest of the country would have been much more interested in, and watched the final than nowadays. Lets face it, there wasnt much choice. It was either the CC Final or wrestling on ITV.
On 29th August i bet more people will be watching the football scores on SSN than the final. Their loss i suppose, but thats the way it is.
In all honesty i'd rather watch the football scores coming through than the Heineken Cp Final, but i bet when i was a lad, i'd have watched the RU Final as there was nowt else on.
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| you dont need to sell the game to the public the fact two different teams are in the final will make it sell
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| Quote ="Chris McKean"Fair enough if that's your opinion. Would you mind explaining yourself though
They have the edge on the interchange, mainly due to Crabtree, and I haven't listed them below but I think our starting options more than cover that
Adrian Morley - 8 - Keith Mason
Michael Monaghan - 9 - Scott Moore
Gareth Carvell - 10 - Darrell Griffin
Louis Anderson - 11 - Stephen Wild
Ben Harrison - 12 - Liam Fulton
Ben Westwood - 13 - David Faiumu'"
you having a laugh mate
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| Quote ="lets play"how dare wigan fans compare themselfs with saints, leeds, bulls in the modern game your just another run of the mill rugby club your not as big as you think anymore
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The last time Dire won anything the mullet was still in fashion, there was no channel tunnel show how long ago it was, Dire never has been or never will a big club hope they enjoy there party but remember the present hasn`t been opened yet as for Bulls show where they are today even there own fans have jumped ship.
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| Quote ="manco"Just enjoying Wigans demise and maybe, just maybe some of the wigan fans realisations that they really aren't a force anymore.................oh warry warry.........................w@#ky w@#ky w@#ky w@#ky warrington!
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They do say that the best way to make a delusion seem real is to keep on reiterating it. You know, it's the old "tell a lie often enough and everyone will believe it" routine.
That, I'm guessing, is what you wusses are trying to do on here. But you're wasting your breath, because we know it isn't true. And so do you.
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