I wonder how the Envy-O-Meter is doing... Probably in the starting 17 next game

That we agree on. Although I want better than Wane (no offence) I'm hoping Daryl Powell is our next one in.

Just like you took Potter from Catalans like you took Brown from Huddersfield now you want Powell from Cas! Stick with what you have for goodness sake

I can't stand stains. I will strongly support any side, Wigan included v stains and I have to confess to absolutely
loving the situation they're in.

Over the years, the stains fans always try and take the mickey, much much more than any other opposing fans.
It was so funny last year though- As the press were reporting our interest in Chris Sandow, their board was taking the pee and totally dismissing any chance we had of signing him. Anyhow, about a month later the signing was announced, and to top it off the following day/day or 2 after, stains announced the signing of Dominic Peyroux squad number 9678456678134 at the nz warriors. Ducking brilliant!

A wire fan calling Saints on a Wigan board. You do realise that both Saints AND Wigan call your pathetic club. A club that's tried to buy the league for 10 years now and failed at every opportunity. Wigan and Saints might hate each other but they have each others respect. Wire on the other hand..... Saints recruitment has been nothing short of pathetic for 4 years or more now yet we still managed to win a league in that time. Wire have spent thousands! With the money you spent AGAIN this year you should walk the league IMO yet I'll bet you my last penny Wigan will finish above you this year .

As for Saints I tipped us for 7th or 8th before the season started and I stand by that.

I don't particularly like either club, but one thing I will say is that if you had half the history of wigan, your fans would be unbearable. And on the subject of cash injection, you've been bankrolled by Mcmanaus for way longer than than 10 years. I know things are a bit slow in gypsie land but do you see the irony in a saints fan criticising
Wire or any other team for having a cash investment. The proof is in the pudding. 10 years ago- newlove,Gidley, Sculthorpe, gibbs and many more. Now it's jack owens and world player of the year Dominic Peyroux.

Wigan fans are arrogant, but sometimes arrogance is earned, they are the most successful side in the game.
Wigan say they respect Saints, not sure they do really, they just pay them lip service, they may see Wire as insignificant compared to Saints because you have won more, but don't kid yourself they respect you either.
Saints fans are unbelievably fickle.
If Wigan went down a league, they would lose fans but I guarantee the percentage would be way less than Saints, Saints just have to lose a handful of games and their gates drop significantly.
Saints fans arrogantly assume they have a devine right to steamroll every team in every game.
Listen how noisy you were at Salford...granted only twice at the half time and full time whistle.

I have a begrudging respect for Wigan, Saints...No team I like seeing getting battered more than Saints.

When we play Saints and Warrington there is always a lot of barracking and trolling leading up to the games but when Saints play Warrington there is nothing but hatred from every quarter. Not sure what you have done to each other to earn that though? Could you indulge me? It's borderline worse than Wire v Widnes but they are always a bit more violent

Not in the salary capped Super League era they're not


How long do you want to go go back for them to be the most successful?
Hunslet,Wakefield,Huddersfield and South Sydney (1 GF win recently) have also been successful in bygone years despite winning nothing for years to make them worthy of being the best side in the game

Just add the cups up, not hard is it

So we're not talking the past 20 SL seasons then?

I didn't start watching RL in 96, pretty sure it's older than 20 years old this game.

Saints fans selective memory, another reason...thanks for reminding me.

So Hunslet are more successful than Wolves then?

Wire are 4th in the Challenge Cup

1st. Wigan 19
2nd. Leeds 13
3rd. Saints 12
4th. Wire 8

16th. Hunslet 2

Championship Winners

Wire 3
Hunslet 2

League leaders

Wire 6
Hunslet 1

So the answer is no Hunslet are not more successful than Wire.

Well behind us though

Quick check - I am still in the Wigan forum aren't I?

Yes but we live in an age where we are encouraged to embrace diversity and the afflicted

Success can be measured in many ways and is subjective from a fan's perspective. If I was a Wigan fan I would take pride in the clubs overall achievements and arguably being the he most famous rugby club in the world. Saints fans will measure success in terms of the superleague as it trumps Wigan and certainly trumps us although jammy grand final win aside, Saints haven't won anything since 2007 apart from the St Helens Star team of the week. In recent years since 2007 we've had some success with 3 cc wins and 2 gf finals so we're not so much of a pathetic club portrayed by the deluded stains fans who are living in the early naughties.

Over many many years being Wire and rugby league fan, I've noticed that stains fans by far contain a conspicuous element of arrogance and like more than anyone to take the mickey, which is fine. But when the shoe is on the other they can't take it, and even worse don't understand why many Wire fans take great pleasure in seeing a boring misfiring stains side containing players with less flair than those found on a table football pole.

Remember the number of complaints when Sky unwrapped the shield then re wrapped it and took it down the tunnel.

More so because it was us, their insignificant neighbours embarrassing them on live TV.

Everyone thought it hilarious...Saints fans complained in numbers, absolute whoppers.

This is amazing


I posted this earlier on before I even saw this thread:
"...same goes for those of you who think the (more successful in SL) Saints are jealous, as you seem to constantly mention they MUST be obsessed with you whenever they talk about their closest rival"
I think Im beginning to see which club is obsessed with the other haha
(hint: its the one with 3 GF wins not 5)

Destested Saints ever since this, love to give it, can't take it.

Wasn't there record numbers of complaints for this....all Saints fans.

Obsession is clearly your strong point, given that you've not been off the Wigan board since Leeds lost last week.

Ive only posted on 2 threads mate, its only cos ive had about 40 replies from you lot

If people are looking for the reason why wire fans hate saints more than wigan, then the answer is simple. It's their fans. I grew up in the 80s and never wanted wigan to win a game. Partly through jealousy and partly beacuse its the english nature to root for the underdog. Having grown up and known several friends who support both of the clubs, as a general rule wigan fans are much nicer people. Saints fans are very bitter people, which is surprising seeing as they have been succesful in the summer era. Also, i take my son to away games with his team all around the north west and it is a much more pleasant experience going to an away fixture in wigan than anywhere in st.helens. In fact, the only parent who causes any problems on our side is a saints fan who happens to live in warrington!