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| Quote ="dubairl"I am starting to hate the footballing antics, pushing and shoving the only reason its happening is because players are getting straight red for throwing a punch. I haven't seen the incident but if what you say is true i hope wane rips Farrell a new one for being a soft booty.'"
Farrell provoked a reaction by shoving him in the face, Poore just didn't mess about really.
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| Quote ="dubairl"I am starting to hate the footballing antics, pushing and shoving the only reason its happening is because players are getting straight red for throwing a punch. I haven't seen the incident but if what you say is true i hope wane rips Farrell a new one for being a soft booty.'"
It looked to me that Poore led with raised elbow into the tackle, which caused the scuffle.
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| Quote ="Geoff"It looked to me that Poore led with raised elbow into the tackle, which caused the scuffle.'"
Fair enough well either hope the referee sees it, smash him in the next tackle, give him some dirty work on the ground or go for an actual punch up, not just push him in the face and then get dropped.
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| Quote ="LewCharnock"Correct me if I'm wrong, but was it Richard Agar's Hull team that came with similar roughhouse, slow the play the ball down tactics a few years ago? The game where we won something like 14-10? We didn't play well today, but with the team we have at the moment we were due a below par performance but Wakefields tactics did not help things. Still a win's a win.'"
TBH I didn't see us doing anything that Wigan weren't doing either as far as messing about at the play the ball and high tackles were concerned. Hicks made some strange calls seemingly letting these things ride on some occasions and penalising them on others.
At least none of our lads resorted to the "dying swan" act that Tomkins utilised on numerous occasions to try and milk a penalty.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"TBH I didn't see us doing anything that Wigan weren't doing either as far as messing about at the play the ball and high tackles were concerned. Hicks made some strange calls seemingly letting these things ride on some occasions and penalising them on others.
At least none of our lads resorted to the "dying swan" act that Tomkins utilised on numerous occasions to try and milk a penalty.'"
Given that he was involved in most of our tries, I think we can forgive him that.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Given that he was involved in most of our tries, I think we can forgive him that.'"
Yes I agree with you. He is a quality player who can and does win games for you with his skill, so trying to milk cheap penalties is something he doesn't need to do, and his antics today at times were more akin to what you see in football where it is routine for players to fall over for little or no reason.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Yes I agree with you. He is a quality player who can and does win games for you with his skill, so trying to milk cheap penalties is something he doesn't need to do, and his antics today at times were more akin to what you see in football where it is routine for players to fall over for little or no reason.'"
Those who watch him week in week out also get to see all the head shots, and cheap shots he takes as well. And he never makes a fuss about them...
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Given that he was involved in most of our tries, I think we can forgive him that.'"
I think you'll find your not allowed to say that.
Tomkins could score a 6, set up another 3 and make zero errors but some idiots that support Wigan will moan about him chatting back to the ref or milking penalties.
Some Wigan fans just aren't happy watching the best player in the league. Instead of lauding his talents and appreciating him they moan about his media work or slate him for playing one game of RU.
He's arguably the most talented player we've ever produced through our academy but that's wasted on a good proportion of our fans.
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| I see Richie Mathers kept up his reputation for being an antagonistic cretin again towards Wigan supporters.
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| Sam's tries and assits won us the game today.
A scrappy match where Wakefield were a shambles until Poore got sent off.
That had every Wakey player upping his game so they didn't get a big score put against them. Nine tries to four was about the difference.
The missed conversions cost Wigan in points on the board.
Wigan's pack look tired and we do need bodies back. If it's true Hansen and Mossop will be back v Bradford then the timing couldn't be more right.
Taylor and maybe Tuson to miss out with Chris going off early with a leg injury.
Thornley should remain at left centre, Hughes to 2nd row as that's what he is, not a threequarter.
Six points from six over the 10 days and three games, the best in the League. Thankfully a Sunday next week so they'll have a full week between games.
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| Quote ="MattyB"I see Richie Mathers kept up his reputation for being an antagonistic cretin again towards Wigan supporters.'"
I love how he tried to throw the ball into the stand and managed to find row 4 about 3 blocks further down.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"I think you'll find your not allowed to say that.
Tomkins could score a 6, set up another 3 and make zero errors but some idiots that support Wigan will moan about him chatting back to the ref or milking penalties.
Some Wigan fans just aren't happy watching the best player in the league. Instead of lauding his talents and appreciating him they moan about his media work or slate him for playing one game of RU.
He's arguably the most talented player we've ever produced through our academy but that's wasted on a good proportion of our fans.'"
It's his defence this season it seems.
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| There's someone who sits directly behind me in the West who does nowt but slag pretty much every Wigan player off every single game, and we're rubbish, regardless of who we're playing against or if we're winning or not. Most of the time, we are winning. She says she's embarrassed to be a Wigan fan, well frankly, I'm embarrassed that she is too. This afternoon after Sam went in for his final try, she said that he'll prob get MOM now for that, when he's done nowt all game!!!!!!......
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| Quote ="dubairl"Fair enough well either hope the referee sees it, smash him in the next tackle, give him some dirty work on the ground or go for an actual punch up, not just push him in the face and then get dropped.'"
Poore definitely led with the forearm/elbow. How the ref missed it i'll never know.
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| Just seen the Poore incident.
Looked like the usual handbags at the PTB and then he threw a punch. Wasn't he sent off in a friendly for throwing a punch as well?
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| Quote ="Conroy"Just seen the Poore incident.
Looked like the usual handbags at the PTB and then he threw a punch. Wasn't he sent off in a friendly for throwing a punch as well?'"
It didn't show the whole thing. Poore led with the elbow, then Faz was pulling at his collar trying to rough him up a bit on the floor. When they got up they were squaring up at bit and Faz caught him in the chin to provoke a reaction, which he definitely got.
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| Quote ="Conroy"Just seen the Poore incident.
Looked like the usual handbags at the PTB and then he threw a punch. Wasn't he sent off in a friendly for throwing a punch as well?'"
Yeah, punching Ryan Bailey.
It's disappointing that the ref missed him leading with the elbow because none of that would have happened if he'd blown for a penalty.
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| Quote ="Katrina"There's someone who sits directly behind me in the West who does nowt but slag pretty much every Wigan player off every single game, and we're rubbish, regardless of who we're playing against or if we're winning or not. Most of the time, we are winning. She says she's embarrassed to be a Wigan fan, well frankly, I'm embarrassed that she is too. This afternoon after Sam went in for his final try, she said that he'll prob get MOM now for that, when he's done nowt all game!!!!!!......'"
I'm thinking ankle length denim skirt, current home shirt and black bomber jacket with circa '97/'98 logo on it.
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| Looking at the size of our guys today - Taylor, Spencer, Dudson, Burke, Thornley, Crosby etc the opposition must be thinking "What's going on here, I thought they were a bunch of kids."
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"
Good to hear Burke played well again and good to get a win regardless of how it comes.'"
He got clobbered twice for his troubles. The first was very late and went on report and floored him. It looked quite bad at first but he got to his feet and went off. He then came back on again some minutes laterand got another one round the chops.
The defence for their first two tries was awful but we always had enough on attack partly down to playing against 12 men.
Very scrappy from Wigan overall but given the players we had out I certainly wasn't expecitng a canter against Wakefield who have not been playing badly this season.
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| - The Poore/Farrell incident was daft and could've easily been avoided with the ref doing his job.
Poore lead with his arm into Farrell's jaw, in which he didn't like so tried to rough Poore up on the floor by grabbing his collar and a slight dig with the knee,, Shoved Poore in the face and got a reaction from him, receiving a beauty hit
- Just a note on Tomkins, can someone please have a word with him about his antics of flailing about the pitch like a salmon when he gets tackled?
hes a top player, and can produce some of the most ridiculous plays in the league, but he needs to cut out the diving about
Also I've not read anything about the Vince Mellars / Greg Burke incident... Just a collision with Mellars going for the dummy runny or..?
All in all, well done on the win and good luck for the rest of the season
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| Quote ="DaveO"He got clobbered twice for his troubles. The first was very late and went on report and floored him. It looked quite bad at first but he got to his feet and went off. He then came back on again some minutes laterand got another one round the chops.
The defence for their first two tries was awful but we always had enough on attack partly down to playing against 12 men.
Very scrappy from Wigan overall but given the players we had out I certainly wasn't expecitng a canter against Wakefield who have not been playing badly this season.'"
I must agree it was a very scrappy game probably down to the amount of games in a short period we didnt have the same intensity, Wakefield came with a plan i think to ruff up our youngsters and there was some cheap shots in there like you said dave, Burke kopped 2 or 3 but to his credit came straight back on, i think he was our best player yesterday and set up a couple of tries too. Our defence was poor in certain areas Green and Taylor might be ran through the mill this week for a couple of poor efforts but on the posititve side of things i was very impressed with greens distribution he's coming good which is great to see. Gutted for tuson hes been in great form of late, like a new signing looks like another layoff for him. Bring on the bulls, selection headache for Wane!
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| As others have stated, it was a scrappy game. I thought Poore had led with a raised arm before the incident that led to his card, so, in a way, it wasn't a surprise.
It was handbags thereafter, and it reminded me of Fielden/Mason...I don't think Farrell was expecting the beauty he got flush on the jaw.
Some poor defence for the first two Wakefield tries, especially the second.
At times we made hard work of making the extra man count, but, a win....they all count.
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| Quote ="W.T.W"- The Poore/Farrell incident was daft and could've easily been avoided with the ref doing his job.
Poore lead with his arm into Farrell's jaw, in which he didn't like so tried to rough Poore up on the floor by grabbing his collar and a slight dig with the knee,, Shoved Poore in the face and got a reaction from him, receiving a beauty hit
- Just a note on Tomkins, can someone please have a word with him about his antics of flailing about the pitch like a salmon when he gets tackled?
hes a top player, and can produce some of the most ridiculous plays in the league, but he needs to cut out the diving about
Also I've not read anything about the Vince Mellars / Greg Burke incident... Just a collision with Mellars going for the dummy runny or..?
All in all, well done on the win and good luck for the rest of the season
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Thank you for the sentiments, but what Sam does at the play at the ball isn't breaking any rule, just the fact that it winds up the opposition doesn't mean he can't do it.
Btw, when he plays like he did yesterday I'm not bothered what he does as long as its not breaking the rules.
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Thank you for the sentiments, but what Sam does at the play at the ball isn't breaking any rule, just the fact that it winds up the opposition doesn't mean he can't do it.
Btw, when he plays like he did yesterday I'm not bothered what he does as long as its not breaking the rules.'"
I also think that teams who come with a remit to spoil and slow things down can't complain when the opposition makes efforts to highlight this.
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