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| Quote ="Conman"Lima is the best prop in the league this season IMO. Beast.'"
Without doubt.
Career best form possibly? Certainly his best spell in an already superb Wigan career. He's achieved a great deal in a short period of time.
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| Quote ="Conman"Lima is the best prop in the league this season IMO. Beast.'"
And that IMO is only because Mossop is injured. What a pack we have. The days of Oliver Wilkes and Jordan James seem so far away now
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Without doubt.
Career best form possibly? Certainly his best spell in an already superb Wigan career. He's achieved a great deal in a short period of time.'"
I think career best form would be fair.
I liked him in the NRL, but he was never given the chance to express himself over there. It's just the same defensive tactics and structures that don't really suit his game.
In SL he has been a wrecking ball and looks really happy.
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| Quote ="FIOS"And that IMO is only because Mossop is injured. What a pack we have. The days of Oliver Wilkes and Jordan James seem so far away now
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I like Mossop but he's still learning the game. Lima is a seasoned prop and in career best form.
As FIOS says, what a pack we have!
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| Above 100m is a very good effort for a prop. Jeff Lima has been averaging above 150m for the last few weeks now an absolute beast!
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| Very suprised to see 4 missed tackles from Carmont
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| As much as I loved Feka at Wigan there is no competition for me when it comes to impact props vs hard working props who will get over 100m + each game like Lima. Him self and Hock stood up massively this season and both should be featuring in the Exile games.
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| Excellent effort from Lima, Prescott and Lauaki. Lauaki in particular, as he needed a good game to make up for his recent indiscretion. Prescott also impressed, considering he only made one kick off return which is where props make up big metres 90 metres is a very good effort. Those are the sort of stats you expect from your props.
Yet again though the right side defence looks watertight, with Goulding being very impressive defensively, while the left hand side looks a little frail, Carmont in particular.
Speaking of stats, Goulding is now joint 2nd in terms of clean breaks, level with Ryan Hall and Greg Eden. Not bad for a player who clearly isn't good enough
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| If Lima keeps up his numbers from this weekend he's got to be a shout for Man of Steel. Immense.
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| Quote ="(Saint)"If Lima keeps up his numbers from this weekend he's got to be a shout for Man of Steel. Immense.'"
It's more likely to go to Ben Davies at Widnes if last year is anything to go by
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| Lima's got to be challenging for a NZ test spot this year on this form.
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| Quote ="Kernel"Great effort from Gelling on those stats. Just needs to cut the errors out, but that will come with match fitness.'"
One of those errors would have been the kick palmed back to Carmont early on, that was adjudged forward (couldn't tell from the South whether that was the right decision or not), so not really a big error. I though he had a good game.
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| Quote ="Conman"Lima is the best prop in the league this season IMO. Beast.'"
Agreed. Lima = BEAST!
Quote ="Conman"I like Mossop but he's still learning the game.'"
He is, but he's a fantastic player already. The fact that he still has potential to improve but is already the top British prop in SL is very exciting. The big question mark is how injury prone he is.
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| Quote ="Young Warrior"And Hock, no errors, only 1 pen. '"
The perils of stats. Hock effectively had a game's rest whilst playing on Monday, I'm certain as agreed by the coaching staff. Yet on Good Friday he had a magnificent game yet he made 2 errors and gave away 2 penalties, crimes for which some on here had previously classed him as a liability.
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| Quote ="Finfin"The perils of stats. Hock effectively had a game's rest whilst playing on Monday, I'm certain as agreed by the coaching staff. Yet on Good Friday he had a magnificent game yet he made 2 errors and gave away 2 penalties, crimes for which some on here had previously classed him as a liability.'"
Oh I'm aware of that, that bit was a bit more tongue in cheek to the people that complain about his error/pen count.
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| There's not a pair of shorts in existence that can contain Lima in this form!
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| Quote ="bikerpie"There's not a pair of shorts in existence that can contain Lima in this form!'"
Worrying news for the guy, to be honest, given that we have to play St Helens again this season....
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| At times when he was walking up to the defensive line after a big run, he looked like a scruffy kid with his shorts hanging as they did... Looked really funny. I think others had "wardrobe malfunctions" too, i'm sure i saw Sams ass at one stage....
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| Whilst i'd agree Lima has been immense for you this season I think Andy Lynch probably takes it for me as best prop in the league. He's been a great signing for Hull and perhaps doesn't get the credit he deserves.
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| Certainly between Lynch and Lima. I don't always think stats tell the full story but when comparing the 2 it's pretty level although I'd guess Lynch has been getting through more minutes then Lima and that as well as obvious club bias is why I'd go for Lima.
Both have been excellent though and have stepped it up at a time their clubs are missing numerous props.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Certainly between Lynch and Lima. I don't always think stats tell the full story but when comparing the 2 it's pretty level although I'd guess Lynch has been getting through more minutes then Lima and that as well as obvious club bias is why I'd go for Lima.
Both have been excellent though and have stepped it up at a time their clubs are missing numerous props.'"
I think you're right about the difference in game time. Lynch in making 141m per game compared to Lima's 124m but that's while making an extra 6 carries a game. One difference is that Lima is making 8m per carry compared with Lynch's 6.5m.
While I'm on about props I think Prescott must be pushing for international selection this year. He's making nearly 100m a game with 7.5m per carry and hasn't missed a tackle yet. Also I think teams might've stopped kicking to him given the damage he does on kick off returns.
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| Quote ="Major Tom"I think you're right about the difference in game time. Lynch in making 141m per game compared to Lima's 124m but that's while making an extra 6 carries a game. One difference is that Lima is making 8m per carry compared with Lynch's 6.5m.
While I'm on about props I think Prescott must be pushing for international selection this year. He's making nearly 100m a game with 7.5m per carry and hasn't missed a tackle yet. Also I think teams might've stopped kicking to him given the damage he does on kick off returns.'"
Teams kick to the same side on kick offs, usually towards the prop standing on the right hand side. In the last couple of games Prescott has been on the left, which I can't really understand as he can be devastating returning kick offs.
His kick return against Wire where he sent Atkins flying would have been the best hit up of the season had he not lost the frigging ball!!
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| Quote ="Major Tom"I think you're right about the difference in game time. Lynch in making 141m per game compared to Lima's 124m but that's while making an extra 6 carries a game. One difference is that Lima is making 8m per carry compared with Lynch's 6.5m.
While I'm on about props I think Prescott must be pushing for international selection this year. He's making nearly 100m a game with 7.5m per carry and hasn't missed a tackle yet. Also I think teams might've stopped kicking to him given the damage he does on kick off returns.'"
Prescott is one of the most underrated players in superleague IMO. He should certainly be in the side for the Exiles games IMO and let's have a look how he gets on.
England need to start going away from the old guard of Morley and Peacock before long because to me them being able to play in the world cup isn't certain and other options need to be explored before then.
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"Teams kick to the same side on kick offs, usually towards the prop standing on the right hand side. In the last couple of games Prescott has been on the left, which I can't really understand as he can be devastating returning kick offs.
His kick return against Wire where he sent Atkins flying would have been the best hit up of the season had he not lost the frigging ball!!'"
You mean had he not had it ripped out
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Prescott is one of the most underrated players in superleague IMO. He should certainly be in the side for the Exiles games IMO and let's have a look how he gets on.
England need to start going away from the old guard of Morley and Peacock before long because to me them being able to play in the world cup isn't certain and other options need to be explored before then.'"
I understand the need to have some old experienced heads in the front row and I've never rated a prop higher than Morley throughout his career, but he's finished. Prescott in!
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