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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"The other lesson being that you can punch Sam Tomkins 4 times and [ireceive[/i a penalty. You couldn't make it up.'"
This.
I thought "Oh, well that will be a pen to us then..." next min I see our players getting back 10
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| Quote ="mirfieldrhino"Penalty for holding down (the original indiscretion) and Westwood told not to take the law into his own hands. Refereeing 101.'"
Holding the man down to stop him from punching him in the head...
What is Tomkins supposed to do? Let go so he can whack him?
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| Quote ="MrMeat&PotatoPie"This.
I thought "Oh, well that will be a pen to us then..." next min I see our players getting back 10
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NEWSFLASH: Not every penalty has to go to Wigan every time.. just so you know. Even when Sam 'can't touch him' Tomkins is involved!
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| Quote ="MrMeat&PotatoPie"Holding the man down to stop him from punching him in the head...
What is Tomkins supposed to do? Let go so he can whack him?'"
Yeah. Would have made my night at least!
In all seriousness, he was holding Westwood down before Benny threw a few. He's not just going to react for no reason.. he's not called Joel.
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| Quote ="mirfieldrhino"Yeah. Would have made my night at least!
In all seriousness, he was holding Westwood down before Benny threw a few. He's not just going to react for no reason.. he's not called Joel.'"
How ignorant.
So holding down is a reason to start throwing punches? It was only after someone restrained Westwood that Tomkins let go.
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| Quote ="MrMeat&PotatoPie"How ignorant.
So holding down is a reason to start throwing punches?
It was only after someone restrained Westwood that Tomkins let go.'"
I never said the punches were deserved. I did say that he wouldn't have started throwing them had he not been held down though. No serious hits landed by Westwood so penalise the first offence. I don't see your problem.
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| Nevertheless, striking a player is a more serious offence than holding down and should have been punished. Your approach to refereeing would give the green light to players reacting with over the top violence safe in the knowledge that they won't be penalised and will, in fact, still receive the original penalty. Westwood should have gone for 10, even if the penalty had still gone to Warrington for holding down.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Nevertheless, striking a player is a more serious offence than holding down and should have been punished. Your approach to refereeing would give the green light to players reacting with over the top violence safe in the knowledge that they won't be penalised and will, in fact, still receive the original penalty. Westwood should have gone for 10, even if the penalty had still gone to Warrington for holding down.'"
Think you'll find a word in the ear sufficed. There was nothing in it really was there. You're only up in arms cause it was on r'Sam.
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| A word in the ear for punching a player and a penalty for lying on? And with that you've blown your cover. Back under your bridge now, be a good lad.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"A word in the ear for punching a player and a penalty for lying on? And with that you've blown your cover. Back under your bridge now, be a good lad.'"
One causes the other.. that's why the FIRST offence gets penalised. HTH.
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| Oh and one more thing...
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| Quote ="mirfieldrhino"Oh and one more thing...
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Aw, have they let you stay up late cos it's not a school night? Did you have fun?
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Aw, have they let you stay up late cos it's not a school night? Did you have fun?'"
That all you've got
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| Quote ="jj151201"this isnt a dig...but on Blythe 1st try did you see one of your supporters smack the bloke next to him? he was sat on the front row right in the corner
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Just re-watched this on Sky! Wallop!! One minute sat there, next minute throws a huge punch at the lad two seats away!!
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| Quote ="mirfieldrhino"That all you've got
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Bit pointless arguing with someone who's already admitted they're on a wind-up. Don't imagine I'd get much but childish baiting, eh.
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| Quote ="MrMeat&PotatoPie"Holding the man down to stop him from punching him in the head...
What is Tomkins supposed to do? Let go so he can whack him?'"
Was this the incident that led to the funniest moment of the night, when Solomona grabs young Sam by the collar and literally chucks him like a rag doll away from the ensuing fracas??.....The sight of Solomona then telling Tomkins and his gathering team mates to calm down was pure genius....
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| Watching at the time, I saw Tomkins headbutt Benny, similar to the one in the WCC, but I'm not definitely certain on that, will have to watch it again.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Watching at the time, I saw Tomkins headbutt Benny, similar to the one in the WCC, but I'm not definitely certain on that, will have to watch it again.'"
I like Tomkins as a player, good brain, quick on his feet and always dangerous, but he has a very short fuse, which, against good sides, will inevitably see him getting exposed.
He undoubtedly has a few tricks of his own when it comes to gamesmanship (the clamping of the tackler's arm in the tackle being the obvious one), but its ironic that whenever an opponent turns the table on him that he seems to lose his rag quite quickly.
I hope for his own sake that he can learn to control that temper, otherwise there is a serious chance it will become a massive flaw in his game that opposing sides will soon look to expose.
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| I see Tomkin milked his usual penalty with his signature move. grix did well to get out of it but again the official was too dumb to see it. he's gonna start getting pinged for it sooner or later.
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| Tomkins punched Westwood first.
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| Quote ="Galloping Ghost"Tomkins punched Westwood first.'"
Been sniffing glue pal? You are the only person in the entire world that saw it this way. Sam couldn't possibly have punched the guy out of the film mask (westwood) first as he was too busy trying to release his arms that the guy out of the film mask (westwood) was holding to milk the penalty.
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| I must admit that penalty was a game changer.........oh no, it wasn't, i forgot we dominated the whole game.
Our forwards were making almost 10 metres per carry, your rarely played beyond our 30 line and your kicking has been your weakness this season, one dimensional.
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| Quote ="Vectrabeast"Been sniffing glue pal? You are the only person in the entire world that saw it this way. Sam couldn't possibly have punched the guy out of the film mask (westwood) first as he was too busy trying to release his arms that the guy out of the film mask (westwood) was holding to milk the penalty.
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Just can't resist sinking to your level with this one, but its a tad ironic you pick out Westwood for his film star looks, when Tomkins himself looks like he has been beaten with the ugly stick....Christ, he has the complexion of a mouldy, crusty pizza....I bet tackling him with that spotty neck is a health & safety issue in itself!!....
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Just can't resist sinking to your level with this one, but its a tad ironic you pick out Westwood for his film star looks, when Tomkins himself looks like he has been beaten with the ugly stick....Christ, he has the complexion of a mouldy, crusty pizza....I bet tackling him with that spotty neck is a health & safety issue in itself!!....
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That is your opinion and you are welcome to it but we could go on all day with comparisons
Briers = a rat, Ben Harrison = a trogladite, Solomona = Jabba the hut
I was merely trying to make it easier to distinguish Westwood for those that may not know who I mean.
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| Quote ="Vectrabeast"That is your opinion and you are welcome to it but we could go on all day with comparisons
Briers = a rat, Ben Harrison = a trogladite, Solomona = Jabba the hut
I was merely trying to make it easier to distinguish Westwood for those that may not know who I mean.
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I think, ultimately, its a futile task picking on Rugby League players for their looks or brains...Has you clearly point out, not many have either...
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