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| Quote ="jonh"If they do, thanks George and all the best.'"
Not that simple tho so late in the day. We can't afford to let such a vital cog in our attack go with no real options for next season to replace him.
If Carmont goes then who is ready to step up at fill that role? Goulding has had his chance, Pryce perhaps? I wouldn't want a kid in Thornley there yet as we've all seen what happens when we shove our kids in at the deep end.
If this would have been decided mid way through the season we'd be in a much stronger position but it's not.
Sadly we need Carmont next season as he's vital for our attack
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Not that simple tho so late in the day. We can't afford to let such a vital cog in our attack go with no real options for next season to replace him.
If Carmont goes then who is ready to step up at fill that role? Goulding has had his chance, Pryce perhaps? I wouldn't want a kid in Thornley there yet as we've all seen what happens when we shove our kids in at the deep end.
If this would have been decided mid way through the season we'd be in a much stronger position but it's not.
Sadly we need Carmont next season as he's vital for our attack'"
We are in a position where we can look around its amazing the standard of player that is available, and who better to know about that than Wane and Maguire.
There is no way Carmont should get a 2 year deal, without any shadow of a doubt. If he wants a 2 year deal let him get it else where, there are always players available. Morris was available 2 years ago late in the day we nearly brought him to the club, now he is in the Australian squad for the 4 nations.
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| Quote ="jonh"We are in a position where we can look around its amazing the standard of player that is available, and who better to know about that than Wane and Maguire.
There is no way Carmont should get a 2 year deal, without any shadow of a doubt. If he wants a 2 year deal let him get it else where, there are always players available. Morris was available 2 years ago late in the day we nearly brought him to the club, now he is in the Australian squad for the 4 nations.'"
Maguire isn't here yet tho!
Before we let Carmont go we have to make sure there are genuine targets out there that we can bring in so late on in the day.
The longer it takes Maguire to come over then asses the squad the more time slips away from us and the harder it will get.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Maguire isn't here yet tho!
Before we let Carmont go we have to make sure there are genuine targets out there that we can bring in so late on in the day.
The longer it takes Maguire to come over then asses the squad the more time slips away from us and the harder it will get.'"
The fact Maguire is not here is inconsequential he knows the Aussie market and he will know the situation with those players that are available.
He will also know like most of us you do not give a 31 year old with a record of niggling injuries a 2 year deal.
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| Quote ="jonh"The fact Maguire is not here is inconsequential he knows the Aussie market and he will know the situation with those players that are available.
He will also know like most of us you do not give a 31 year old with a record of niggling injuries a 2 year deal.'"
Fair enough I don't think he should get a 2 year deal either tbf.
I just hope we've got a plan B now to sign another player. Lote again?
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| A Tenner the James Graham 'Rumour' to Wigan gets in one of the papers this week .
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Fair enough I don't think he should get a 2 year deal either tbf.
I just hope we've got a plan B now to sign another player. Lote again?
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George Carmont is more than just a class act whilst on the pitch. He is a consummate professional and his conduct as a pro is a great influence on not just junior members of our squad but junior members of the Wigan community.
On his day he is right up there with the very best and his body is in the state it is because of the gutsy performances he has put in whilst wearing the Wigan shirt.
A little bit of hypocrisy from me now.
I would not want Wigan to become a club that would offer a player purely out of gratitude and short sightedness as opposed to a contract offer that would enhance or stabilise the team.
At the same time however, I have a real soft spot for George and I would love to thank him to be rewarded financially toward the end of his career because of all the things he has done for us over the last two years.
Perhaps a 1 year contract with a higher wage than he is asking for should be offered. This would allow him to be better off financially and I would give us a cracking player for an extra year before a young lad is ready to step up?. Then we can re-consider for 2011 or he can get a contract elsewhere.
It’s a win, win situation.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"George Carmont is more than just a class act whilst on the pitch. He is a consummate professional and his conduct as a pro is a great influence on not just junior members of our squad but junior members of the Wigan community.
On his day he is right up there with the very best and his body is in the state it is because of the gutsy performances he has put in whilst wearing the Wigan shirt.
A little bit of hypocrisy from me now.
I would not want Wigan to become a club that would offer a player purely out of gratitude and short sightedness as opposed to a contract offer that would enhance or stabilise the team.
At the same time however, I have a real soft spot for George and I would love to thank him to be rewarded financially toward the end of his career because of all the things he has done for us over the last two years.
Perhaps a 1 year contract with a higher wage than he is asking for should be offered. This would allow him to be better off financially and I would give us a cracking player for an extra year before a young lad is ready to step up?. Then we can re-consider for 2011 or he can get a contract elsewhere.
It’s a win, win situation.
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No. 1 year deal. Thornley in 2011.
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| Quote ="p1e e8ter"No. 1 year deal. Thornley in 2011.'"
that's what he said? He just wants to give him a higher wage for the one year to make him take it.
Good idea IMO as Carmont is a class act
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| [urlhttp://www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Maguire-looks-to-strengthen.5720016.jp[/url
Read into that what you will, sounds to me as though if the right person becomes available then we may strike.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"[urlhttp://www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Maguire-looks-to-strengthen.5720016.jp[/url
Read into that what you will, sounds to me as though if the right person becomes available then we may strike.'" Which must always have been the case, all the more so with a new man coming in.
If we were to sign one player, for me I would hope it to be Moi Moi.
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| i hear wire are sniffing around joe mellor. has anyone else heard about this.
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| Quote ="wiganstripleL"i hear wire are sniffing around joe mellor. has anyone else heard about this.'"
I've not heard about this, but it won't be unusual. Our rivals are always sniffing around our best youngsters. But be assured, we're a lot better protected from these kinds of raids now than we were a couple of years ago.
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| carmont has to have a 2 year deal, our best centre since renouf
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| No way would I give Carmont 2 years, 1 year with an option in the club's favour is surely the best we can offer.
Great bloke, great pro and a very good player on his day but far too risky to give him that length of contract.
If he insists on it, then we should give Goulding another shot and re-assess later.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"No way would I give Carmont 2 years, 1 year with an option in the club's favour is surely the best we can offer.
Great bloke, great pro and a very good player on his day but far too risky to give him that length of contract.
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Totally agree.
As much as I admire Carmont as a player and bloke, I don't think he's got a consistant two years in him.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"carmont has to have a 2 year deal, our best centre since renouf'"
I don't think he could do another 2 years at this level.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"I don't think he could do another 2 years at this level.'"
If George thinks he can do 2 years then he can have a one year deal with a second year option in favour of Wigan, if he says he can do 2 years there should be no problem for his extension should there?
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| Quote ="post"If George thinks he can do 2 years then he can have a one year deal with a second year option in favour of Wigan, if he says he can do 2 years there should be no problem for his extension should there?'"
He wants two years with no strings attached and I think he wants this as that ties in with when his kids reach a certain point in their education. A one year deal means he would have to take his kids out of school at a very inconvenient time.
Now I know you can't run an RL club and sign players on that basis but I can see why he wants the two years.
Whether he should get two ought to depend on the expected development of younger centres at the club. If the club were anticipating one of them being given George's slot in 2011 then it can't really justify giving him a two year deal. If not then we have a hole to fill in 2011 so I'd rather stick with him.
He could of course offer to play for less in the 2nd year of the two year extension to see if that tempted the club. It would not tie up so much salary cap and allow him to share the centre spot with a younger player gradually easing the young player into the side.
I'd sooner have him on a two year deal than Bailey on the one year deal he has apparently got.
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| I would give both Bailey & Carmont a one year deal. Then I would go for M. Cooper to replace George, and give Farrell more of a run out.
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| I have give my thoughts on my blog with regards to George Carmonts contract.
Quote No Brainer - extend his contract. He is one of the best players in our squad and the best centre at the club and one of the best centres in super league. He is everything I expect of an overseas player. If he wants a bigger wage give him the reduced wage of Baileys original contract. He deserves it.
It would only be a one year option though for me for three reasons:
1. We have Darrell Goulding, Karl Pryce and at some point Ian Thornley who are coming through the ranks and you would hope one of them makes it!
2. He is slightly injury prone. That thigh has been giving him numerous problems throughout the season.
3. Age is not on his side. Although he didn't start his career till he was 26 he will be 32 when his contract is up for renewal in 2010.
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| Quote ="wiganstripleL"i hear wire are sniffing around joe mellor. has anyone else heard about this.'"
Can't Warrington produce any kids of their own? They always seem to be trying to poach all the best players produced by Wigan amateur and schools rugby.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Can't Warrington produce any kids of their own? They always seem to be trying to poach all the best players produced by Wigan amateur and schools rugby.'"
Mellors from warrington
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Mellors from warrington'"
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Mellors from warrington'"
And his dad is or was involved with the Warrington coaching system.
Says a lot really, doesn't it.
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