I just thought in the area of the field he found himself it was worth the chance, especially with the space in behind and giving yourself two chances of getting a result. If you do go for it though, it needs to be spot on and it wasn’t. I know it’s the sort of play Wane would hate for example and I get it but if Lam openly admits he likes to play attacking rugby and he does talk a good game on that front, then we’re going to see more of that and less of us just turning it over in decent position to save having to defend an extra tackle.

Absolutely agree with you that Smith does need to learn when to stick or twist. I thought that was an opportunity to go for something more risky but there were opportunities outside of that where he could’ve tried to get a repeat set but he went for the ultra attacking option. It’ll come in time with age and experience though. I’d rather him work from a base of taking too many risk plays and feel out a good balance, than being that nervous of making errors that he just totally goes in to his shell.

We did an excellent job on Watts as well. He only made around 50 metres and that’s a guy who has run in advance of 150 metres in a pretty regular basis against us and other teams. He’s actually had a really quiet start to the season when I’ve seen him though.

I thought he looked a little out of condition, or had added some unneeded weight.

Certainly nowhere near his best at the minute. When we talk about him as an option here, we’d need to keep an eye on how he’s performing now because as much as we’d love a Liam Watts of 2019, things change and players lose form and head on a downward trajectory. We ideally need the next Liam Watts or an overseas prop who will come in and make an impact.

Coming a bit late to this party but I had problems with the code last year and when I tried it yesterday, then remembered last year I was told you had to activate it on the app first as I was trying to input the code on the website and it kept saying oops something has gone wrong. Activated the code yesterday on the app then watched it on the smart TV

Wouldn't that be awesome if we could swap Clubb for Walmsley! That would have to be the most one-sided swap deal in history!
Saints - We might consider letting you have Walmsley for £600K
Wigan - What if we throw in Tony Clubb?
Saints - In that case we'd want £800K

Watched an interview with Clubb before where he seemed to suggest he’d spoke to Lam and put a case forward that he should start and that Bullock was suited to playing from the bench. If you keep a place on 3 carries and 16 tackles as a starting front row then props are redundant at Wigan. We may as well find more back row forwards and play a full pack of them.

it's like swapping a casio for a cartier. Wait a few months and the Thompson rumours will be here again. Will he go back to saints after being slammed by mcmanus in the media? He is from Wigan isn't he? If he isn't happy in Australia and we have been saving the cap space for a mid season signing I could see it happening. My god he would turn into the devil if that happened. Our phalanged challenged friends over the lump will be burning effigies.

He maybe from Ashton, went to school at Edmund Arrowsmith, played alongside Joe Burgess and Oliver Gildart. However he was/is a big Saints fan and gave his address as one of his St. Helens based relatives so that he could be their service area and played there as a junior.

How must Clark and Kilner feel?

Wigan have recently cancelled Clark’s move to Toulouse which was going to be finalised last week.

Very strange.

I agree, I think that may be at Lam's request.

He’s from Haydock

If that’s the case and Lam is starting it off the back off that then it’s comical. Bullock isn’t a world beater, or he isn’t playing like he is, but I’d rather 4 Bullocks then a single Clubb. I genuinely can’t fathom how he gets anywhere near a starting berth. He offers nothing other than hitting a HB who’s just kicked the ball.

It’s always half of the Yickers letting the side down at Eddie’s. Had to put up with them for 5 years around the days of Bobbie Goulding and Sonny Nickle.

Though he was from Garswood.

I couldn’t quite believe what I was hearing. He certainly said he met with Lam to discuss starting games but maybe the Bullock part was him just saying in the interview that he felt Bullock was good off the bench, rather than him saying that’s what he told Lam (that part wasn’t hugely clear).

I love watching this side at the minute. The attitude is brilliant and we’re defending for our lives but the gaping hole in that starting front row is so clear. I like Bullock from the bench but he got hardly any time Thursday for some reason, so if we’re going to give our biggest metre maker the least minutes, It isn’t working. If 3 carries gets you a start as a prop then it’s a disgrace. Lam should be asking for another chat with Clubb and putting those stats on the table and asking what colour water carrying bib he wants.

If Clubb is the best option then I am getting worried again. A decent prop should be able to take that number of carries without breaking sweat. If the game plan is for him to fill a hole in defence and nothing else when we are lacking go forward we are being rather two dimensional. It is time to bring in a bit of rotation before we need to urgently call on players who have not played for a year and a half.

If he was making 20+ tackles a stint you could argue that.

I don't see how anyone looks at those stats and believes he is worth a place.

I had to put up with them at Eddie’s during the early 2000’s although the Murrayfield CC win and the Good Friday win with the kids temporarily gave me bragging rights

Once Gildart/Manfredi/Marshall are back, that will push Farrell and Isa back into the pack and we can make some decisions.

I’d rather Isa start at prop over Clubb! At least you can guarantee work rate and effort.

How has club gone from not in the 17 for the first couple of games to starting now.

If you ask any RL supporter from any club, who was the better of two, the answer would not be Clubb.

Got to wonder what Clark is doing/not doing in training that puts him so far down the pecking order.
I didn't see the Salford friendly but a few on here said he had a good game, strange it looks like he's not getting a sniff of a game.

This is pure speculation. My guess would be that we need to get him off the cap, not on loan but gone. I reckon they’ll have their eye on a prop but are not able to sign him yet. Clubb will be gone at the end of the season so will be off the books by then.

I do wonder whether we’ll see GB back next year if his op goes well.

No, Nay and Never. Leave that one well alone.

Nothing against Clubb and he has been a good servant in a successful period for the club but his time was over 3 seasons ago. How he plays is a joke. Has he got a picture of Lam in a tryst with a chicken or something and is blackmailing him to play