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| Quote ="rawzy!"are you serious westwood is miles better than tomkins you need your head testin'"
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| Quote ="rawzy!"are you serious westwood is miles better than tomkins at goalkicking you need your head testin'"
That's all I can think of that could make this true?
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| To be honest I thought Ben Westwood was the best player on the field last night just shading Lee Briers.
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| Quote ="DP_wwrlfc"You wish you had a second rower even close to the quality of that lad.'"
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| Quote ="St pete"That lads going to get what's coming to him if he don't cut out the sly dirty play!'"
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| Joel i top the penalty count tompkins...
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| Quote ="rawzy!"are you serious westwood is miles better than tomkins you need your head testin'"
Rubbish.
You could say one is slightly better than other for various reasons, i'd say they're as good as eachother at the moment, but the thing is Tomkins is going to get better, i don't think Westwood is.
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| Quote ="Solomonas Headgear"Joel "attack them when they score" Tomkins
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At least you spelt it right.
i think we're using the word 'attack' a bit heavily here, get over it seriously.
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| Quote ="Geoff"I like his hot-headedness. Yeah, I know he's top of the SL penalty list, but I think the passion he brings to his game justifies that. A bit like Hock, really.
What concerned me more last night was those two uncharacteristic errors in attack - the pass to Goulding and the kick on. Most unlike him.'"
That kick was a big turning point and was very poor play from Tomkins. All he had to do was pass commit the defender a little more and pass to Goulding and it was a certain try. He is not a good passer of the ball and I just think that he didnt fancy himself to give the pass to Goulding. The pass to Goulding in the first half was also a shocker and blew another try which would have given us a decent lead. In big games not taking your chances like that is the difference between winning and losing, as last night showed. It also showed to those who keep saying about Tomkins at centre why he will never be a good centre and is only useful there in an emergency.
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| I'd like to congratulate Joel on a quality hit on Myler last night. Good to see.
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| Quote ="Dei Morti Viventi"I'd like to congratulate Joel on a quality hit on Myler last night. Good to see.'"
Again,poor.
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| well he needed to even it up after Carvell and Andersons late hits
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| This is getting a little blown out of proportion.
Joel did a couple of daft things last night, but no worse than anything Warrington did back. He could just do with playing a little smarter (more with his head than his heart I'd suggest) but I wouldn't go so far as to say I'd want to entirely remove the aggressive part of his game.
He has been outstanding this season, no Wigan fan would swap him for any back rower in the Warrington squad, and I'm sure he's not going to turn into a dirty player with a bad rep.
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| Dont talk daft. Joel Tomkins is far superior to both of them in attack and just as good if not better in defence.
Go have a look at the stats on the superleague website and compare the 3, Joel es all over them.
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| Quote ="DP_wwrlfc"
Go have a look at the stats on the superleague website and compare the 3, Joel es all over them.'"
Best second rower in the comp bar none. And just because he has a little bit of an off night doesn't change that.
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| It will be wigans loss come Tuesday when he gets his ban.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"It will be wigans loss come Tuesday when he gets his ban.'"
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| Just like stevo and eddie, " let's give it plenty air time so the RFL will have to act" Pity they did'nt comment on Atkins on goulding, bad as Coley's. Anderson on Leuluai, late and deliberate.Harrison on Fielden, forearm in the face.Morley on Mossop, high. Morley on Gleeson, high, again. Atkins on Tucson, high shot as he scored, and lots more. Absolute joke. No doubt we'll have the sanctimonious Wigan rugby fans elite aristocrats club attacking their own fans, and spouting the usual tripe about the ref being as bad for both sides, well, Silverwood was so biased to Warrington a ten year old child could see it. And the sad thing is, we could have so easily still have won it.
And before you start gobbin off, watch it, we even had a second dose ,today, at Orrell. Has smith got summat on the RFL from his time as England coach?
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| Wigan fans know there rugby, but where have all these fruit cakes come from.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"Wigan fans know there rugby, but where have all these fruit cakes come from.'"
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| Quote ="Dei Morti Viventi"I'd like to congratulate Joel on a quality hit on Myler last night. Good to see.'" Pity he didnt stop him scoreing a try........
Oh for big hits see adrian morley or louis anderson...
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| Quote ="zntyres"Just like stevo and eddie, " let's give it plenty air time so the RFL will have to act" Pity they did'nt comment on Atkins on goulding, bad as Coley's. Anderson on Leuluai, late and deliberate.Harrison on Fielden, forearm in the face.Morley on Mossop, high. Morley on Gleeson, high, again. Atkins on Tucson, high shot as he scored, and lots more. Absolute joke. No doubt we'll have the sanctimonious Wigan rugby fans elite aristocrats club attacking their own fans, and spouting the usual tripe about the ref being as bad for both sides, well, Silverwood was so biased to Warrington a ten year old child could see it. And the sad thing is, we could have so easily still have won it.
And before you start gobbin off, watch it, we even had a second dose ,today, at Orrell. Has smith got summat on the RFL from his time as England coach?'"
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| I recorded the match and I've just watched the first half. I've seen myler's try when tomkins dives on him and then pats him on the chest as if to say good try. Myler gets to his feet and no Warrington players react to tomkins. The referee does nothing either. I had to check bilko's match report to see if myler scored another try as I couldn't see anything in what tomkins did. A massive over reaction from wire fans on this 'incident'.
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| Quote ="Pemps"I recorded the match and I've just watched the first half. I've seen myler's try when tomkins dives on him and then pats him on the chest as if to say good try. Myler gets to his feet and no Warrington players react to tomkins. The referee does nothing either. I had to check bilko's match report to see if myler scored another try as I couldn't see anything in what tomkins did. A massive over reaction from wire fans on this 'incident'.'"
Wasn't nasty but was late, i.e like a flop. It should have been an 8 point try according to the laws.
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