The problems were evident from the Wire friendly. We only score flukey tries v Hudersfield and should have put 60+ on Leigh.

And Stuart Fielden played prop. How times change.

I doubt Noble will play him tbh.

A depleated wakefield side

would have been the perfect opportunity...and he didnt even make the squad...No Hope.

yeah

The more I think about this, the more I think this is true.

Did Nobby pin his hopes on getting a quality 6 in to replace Barrett?

Why didn't we get Bird?

Was IL not prepared to put his hand in his pocket?

No he was not and Wigan could not increase the cap space in time either

We've been bringing him in 'slowly' for the past 2 seasons. Bring him in any slower and he'll be retiring. He's 20 years of age, how much longer do you expect him to wait before he starts getting frustrated, thats if he already isn't p*ssed off.

If that's the case how can anyone expect Wigan to be succesful if IL is not willing, on the rare occasion, to dip into his own pockets for a world class player?

We do not need World Class players



So people said on here after listening to evangelical speeches by IL and BN

He will not dip his hands in his pockets. The club must be self sufficient. He paid his money to be Wigan's No 1 Fan and that is all we are getting.

Still as long as he gets to be part of the squad photo who cares

From what I've been hearing about the team v Wakey, we do.

Surely, having one/two world class players isn't a bad thing?

We could do with hiring Kris Radlinski to coach Mathers in the role of fullback, seriously. Even if its just for a month or two and in that time for him to play in the reserves.

Coley should put some weight on (especially in his legs they are like chopsticks) and run the ball in harder in pairs with another forward with Tommy or Mathers on the back of them instead of one up rugby.

Sam Tomkins should have been on the bench for the Wakey game seeing as though their pack weren't up to much there was no need for all forwards on our bench, Riddell can play prop with Tommy to Hooker, Smith to Scrum Half and Tomkins Stand Off.

I love the kind of replies people put on here, 'Hey we could get Radlinkski in to coach Mathers' ... 'we could get Shaun Edwards to coach Wigan and f**k his big time salary in rugby union off!' ... Before I heard someone say put Pryce' at f***ing stand off... WTF!??! Some people have no idea ... Do you really think, that they will bring Radlinski in to coach Mathers? No way... It doesn't do any good for Mathers confidence for one... 'Hey ritchie, your mate, all your experience in Australia etc. and at Leeds has done f*ck all mate, so we're bringin radlinski in to teach you a few things' ...

Specialist coaching mate, doesnt have to be Rads but hes been the best the best fulllback in the superleague era and prob best ever Wigan fullback so I think maybe he could give Mr Mathers a few pointers to help with his game. Should have been done in the off season though.

Crikey, aggressive posturing is getting to be the norm on this website. Calm down, pal, or you'll have to spend every hour of every day writing essays on here to justify your opinions.

haha i know mate, don't know why i've joined up, people do me head in on here! lol

You are here for a reason



The club asked Radlinski to mentor players. So on that basis they must not know what they are doing Rocket?

Who needs Edwards? Do you want him?

I was being sarcastic mate.

Yes we do. All successful teams have 1 or 2 of such players

Mathers has no heart to play fullback. Rads had it in spades but he'll never be able to coach it into someone else. You've either got it or you haven't.

Indeed.

Mathers is to SL Fullback as what Audley Harrison is to Heavyweight Boxing.

No heart.

2 pictures to describe Mathers



pea heart

A perfect summary

are that desperate to try that, I just don't see him being nimble enough as leon, or even second row with more weight, just don't think he's got the grey matter too

The problems with our halfbacks were evident in a friendly where we played neither of our first choice halfbacks? Our halfbacks that day were O'Loughlin and Tomkins, O'Loughlin had a decent game and Tomkins had an awesome game, scoring a hat trick in the process...

We also played a bunch of school kids