The first post was intended to be sarcastic. You will see my thoughts on Ainscough throughout this forum, and non are negative.

Should he stay in the team ahead of the returning Mathers though?

Ainscough and Goulding píss all over Mathers and Phelps they should keep them two out the team the rest of the season.

Need to put an emote in or use inverted commas in places if you want to convey sarcasm. I've backed you on the Noble issue and will continue to, however, I won't not take the michael when something like that presents itself



Re Ainscough - I was listening to GMR as I was not available for the game but the lad appeared to play well, bags of confidence and effort. Expect him to go back to the Reserves but only to polish his game a little, after all, he's still v young and only just out of the academy.

Yes, Mathers is cack.

Never going to happen in the reserves.

sadly agree but expect it to happen.

Didn't think anyone would take me seriously!!

Goulding isn't, yes he might be a nice lad and have lost some weight, but my god, his defence is shockingly bad. He gets flack for being ball greedy but his real weakness is his defence, he gets skinned all ends up all to often.

Him and Phelps are both average. Nothing more, nothing less.

Ainscough should keep his place though, no question.

Ainscough looked promising but Goulding had a hard time against Shenton

Wasnt taking you seriously was just making a point - i know you dont want Mathers in over Ainscough



Ah that old rlfans myth that Gouldings defence is cack....lets bring in phelps...oh yeah his is worse.

Was this due to the tactic of Wigan walking 3 steps forward and holding allowing the fastest centre in Sl the space to get up to full speed and take the outside line?

Was not there so its a genuine question.

Thank god





His defence is though, he was beaten all ends up for both Cas's tries at the end of the first half. Massively at fault.

Phelps is no better, but he is no worse, and would have scored the chances at Hull that Goulding fluffed.

I will now cause meltdown - Bailey needs to play in that centre position until we get back on track.

No, it was due to his poor positioning.

When was the last time we had a young local winger with raw pace and power like that? Exciting times ahead for Mr. Ainscough

You've got lots to say, but do you ever actually go to a game?

I will take your word for it as i have yet to see it.

I do ask the question though did we continue with the move up 3 yards and hold defence tonight?

Did the markers get nailed (again) sounded so from the comentary.

We seemed to in part and at other times we were moving up, the trouble is our players weren't strong enough in the tackle to hold the Cas players on either occurance.

Our marker defence was okay, it was our defence outwide that was as weak as soggy Weetabix tonight.

So we were inconsistent in defence and our conditioning was not up to scratch.

In my opinion both Noble issues.

Basically those were the 2 issues.

Forshaw surely has to be to blame for some of the conditioning, he is over that area, am I naive to think that he sets up the conditioning programmes etc?

Who brought Forshaw to the club?

You have a budget to bring top quality specialist coaches to the club, is it coincidence that the best coach is Nobles mate?

Jobs for the boys.

Good coaches surround themselves with the best people.

Well played Sean Ainscough!

He looked in a lot of bother with his feet. He just about squeezed into the black boots to replace the orange ones. IIRC he had the orange ones at Warrington. Surely a proffesional club makes sure their players have decent footwear that fits/ provides traction?

He had a great debut, took his try superbly, and I don't give a stuff about him raising his arm to celebrate, was nice to see someone who had a bit of passion. Well done.

Let's hope for another debut next week in SL,

I agree with that, I would like to see IL bring in new coaches / conditioning staff to work with Noble. I have questions relating to our fitness but ill hold my hands up and admit I dont know enough to question him. That being said, I know enough to understand we aren't fit enough.

Looks like it's shortlived: Quote Hopefully we will get Bailey and Richards back next week." '" www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4536 I'm sure Quins are petrified Brian.

Looks like it's shortlived: Quote Hopefully we will get Bailey and Richards back next week." '" www.wiganwarriors.com/news_full.asp?newsid=4536 I'm sure Quins are petrified Brian.

It wasn't Brian Foley, it was Phil Vievers, and quite rightly.
Ainscough should have passed the ball inside inthe first place, igan had two men inthe clear, then he baet the fullback on the touchline and had a free run to the posts.

What did he do, give the arm in the air and put the ball down 10 yards from the touchline instead of under the posts.

Goal kick missed, and still two points behind. He will get a well deserved bollocking, I just hope he learns from it.

Otherwise he had a great debut, as did Karl Pryce (considering he is only about 70% fit)