As others have pointed out, even Tony Smith said the red card was harsh.

It migjt not of been intentional but at the end of the day he connects on the chin. Intention or not, its a red.

Id say 90% of suspensions are not intentional but its still foul play.

I think defo a red and e game ban.

Before all the wigan fans jump on me claiming im biased as im saints fan, i was one of the few that thought the last flower suspension was ott

I was disagreeing with a poster who said that an offence deemed as careless should be punished in the same way as one deemed intentional. If that was intentional it should be 10 matches, I don't think it was. If you read my previous posts you will see I thought it should have been a red and 2 - 3 game suspension.

Well i agree with that

great game and wigan where brill, but flower has to get a ban , imo if you lead with an elbow to someones face/jaw you are risking serious injury to that player a bit higher and it could have broken his jaw, no need for it, yes you need to challenge the kicker and let them know your there but that was bad, anyway well played wigan and again a great game

I can't figure out why the crusher on Clubb wasn't looked at when it happened.

Well yeah, you're right, that's how the grading system works (or is supposed to...). Careless is grade A-B, reckless is C-D, intentional is D-F.

Will he then appeal the ban, and get let off for his impeccable disciplinary record.

Unsurprisingly, we also have contributions to this thread by fans from clubs who, as usual, have nothing else to talk about at this time of year.

Hey don't be mean, they're in a tough battle for 5th!

Am I the only person who didn't think it was that bad?

Regards

King James

No. Both coaches agree with you.

This. I can understand some of the outrage with how it looks and who did it but Flower isn't even looking at the lad, he's got an arm up to charge the ball and catches him badly on the way down. I can't argue with the red card and a possible 2-3 game ban because it was reckless, but I'm not seeing a deliberate attack.

bollox, Flower knew where his forearm was heading long before he looked away, and by "long" I mean fractions of a second.
Still, he didn't hurt nobody so what's the problem, I mean if O'loughlen can get away with what he did then Flower deserves an apology for the red really.
Does it seem like there's been more red cards for Wigan this season than usual....I dunno

Your right.... U dunno

Meh, as stated, I'll agree with Tony Smith and you can keep looking for Red Hall conspiracies and boo hoo-ing about nasty evil Wigan.

He lead with the elbow got a sending off,dont think it was intentional though but wont play again this season i feel.

He really doesn't. 2 red cards all year.

Seen it quite a few times now and still can't see a great deal in it. Patton was fine, and to his credit didn't make theatricals out of it. You see things just as bad most weeks. Luke Walsh's upending the other week was much more dangerous IMO. For me it was a forearm meant for the chest, from I tired frustrated player, and he will get what is deemed to be deserved. The usual piranhas, and mole-hill mountain makes are always looking for any excuse to say the word thug, ad nauseam. So let um!

It was not a great one and deserves 2-3 easily

never a fan of attacks on the kicker as he is a very vulnerable position. Mind you i hate any form of attack on prone or vulnerable players.

It has to be said that the Powell KO was a bad one IMO. Totally clumsy of Currie to put his knees in that area and the outcome of a full on knee smash to the temple must be worse than an elbow to the jaw.

I know the lad is crocked and will miss a good few games by the sound of it but this needs citing IMO.

Same goes for any player that does it (Sam T.....)

Must be said though that before the brain fart, Flower was in true beast mode. Making silly yards and scattering defenders left right and chelsea

Will be missed

What....the conspiracy is for Red Hall to ensure Wigan get more red cards than usual ??

I don't think Flower's challenge was anything like as bad as O'loughlens, and that is still playing, if Flower gets more than one or two games I think he's been unlucky.

Tony Smith can't say F'all, Flowers sending off didn't hinder Wire or injure Patten but they still lost, so what would be the point in bitching about the challenge........s'right, no point at all, so shaddap about Tony Smith

Hope you also noticed, I can't be d to find out

But happy to shoot your mouth off.... Fair enough..

Yep noticed and noted for future reference to any other tripe you may post

No you suggested there's a conspiracy to give Wigan lenient treatment at disciplinary hearings, and then admitted you know 'f'all' about Wigan's disciplinary record so maybe it's you who should 'shaddap'.