No because they weren't. Any more questions?

And your lot didn't throw a forward pass all game

And Westerman dropped the ball over the tryline, whats your point?

My point is these tries shouldn't have stood and we could well have won the game.

Yes, when did you last go to the opticians, they were blatant, even if you factor in the momentum rule, not even close.

Never forward, next question

Not half as much as it should have been!!

Same old, same old from Agar. Exactly the same as last season at the DW. Came with the intent to spoil the game. I remember being flabbergasted when after the match last year, he started the Wigan lying on myth, when Hull were far worse all game. Now he calls us for cheap shots after…….

I wouldn’t care, but as the Hull fans agree he can’t even coach. Tool.

Since when was tackling by the throat legalised? I don't think you'd call it fair if Lima grabbed long by the neck and did the same would you?

At the end of the day, Wigan were very off-form, very under-strength and a man down for the last 25 minutes. Not only that, Hull were in front.

There is no way in the memory of man that Hull should have lost that match.

Agar can feel a pit opening underneath him, and rightly so. He's a crap coach and a typical Yorkshire whinger, who doesn't seem to realise that bleating to the press after yet another defeat makes him look even more like a loser. In fact, if he had L-O-S-E-R printed on his forehead, he couldn't look more like one than he does at this moment.

The sooner a top club like FC get rid of him and appoint someone who knows what he's doing, the better for the game in general.

That's all that needs to be said.

Get your facts right mate, you may well be right about Agar's coaching ability but what he says is spot on, if you think Wigan don't have a reputation for their underhand tactics in the tackle, go and ask fans opinions on other boards, it may help you remove those blinkers.

If you want to get the 'facts' about a club, the one group of people you don't ask are those with an axe to grind. So your advice is rightly and happily discarded.

The reality is, sadly, that your club is still miles from where it should be. Good players are going to age and become useless to you without getting anywhere near a Grand Final, if you don't get your house in order soon.

Bitch about us all you want - pick either imaginary or real issues (it won't matter to you either way, as you've proved on this thread) - but none of that will change the fact that you ned a new coach, a new chairman and a completely new attitude (that last part applies to you in particular).

Before you can even start to criticise other clubs, you need to get your own house in order in a big way. Agar can have an opinion after he's been back to Rugby League school and started to re-educate himself from page one up. Perhaps his first lesson should be that going out to clobber the opposition's little guys only works if you've got players who are actually capable of doing it.

Yep you maybe could of but you didnt did you, no good blaming the ref all the time i know Ganson wont have done Wigan any favours avid Saints fan, but like we used to be told not the referee that misses tackles or drops passes is it ???? I backed Fc with 12 start things will get better also did City KR and FC all to win oh well ..... Its a long season....

And your lot didn't try to decapitate Fitzgibbon - one of the tallest players on the pitch ? Go figure.

I admit we came with a tactic to rough you up a bit, particularly Sam Tomkins, but none of the tackles on him were particularly bad and with regards to high shots and grapples you were just as bad as us. Why is Manu being singled out for taking out Tomkins? I can only remember one high shot by him and that was the one he got put on report for (nothing in it either), the others penalties given to Sam was Lauaki's hit which was a perfectly good tackle but then he got done for a flop I think? Briscoe tackled him in the air and was rightly penalised and Tickle blocked him off when he was chasing a kick, again a deserved penalty.

Both the Tomkins brothers are very petulant though I must say, Joel more so, the elbow was just silly and him throwing the ball at Briscoe in the first half nearly sparked another punch up.

Easily spotted from the North stand, where you had a much better position to see them...

I presume he's referring to the video footage shown on Sky Sports News - the same footage you guys have used to exonerate Tomkins.

Which is precisely why the video can't be used to rule on forward passes, but can for disciplinary cases.

I don't think you'll find any Wigan fans who'd disagree with you about Joel's stupid action. He will rightly be suspended, which is something we just don't need at the present time. In one moment of uncontrolled hot-headedness, he's put extra pressure on his team-mates for several weeks. Plus, he could have seriously injured his opponent.

The point generally, I think, is that Agar's post-match whining seems a bit rich when, by your own admission, Hull's own tactics were skating pretty near the edge. Personally, I think Agar needs to learn how to coach normally before he tries roughhouse variations. In the meantime, you lot should just get rid. If you snapped the guy in half, he'd have 'Loser' written all the way through him.

To be fair Briscoe was petulant in that game. Nearly every single take made against him he came pushing and swinging as if something had happened, but nothing had. I'm assuming it was Agar's tactics. Take umbrage at some invisible offence in the tackle and make the ref think that Wigan are doing something untoward.

to be fair to hull i see nothing wrong with what they did in terms of trying to rough up one of our best players i really hope our forwards would do the same if needed.

the bit that annoys me is fans/coaches who dont understand moaning about our wrestle in the tackle. fact is wrestling is now an important part of the game the team that wins the wrestle controls the play wigan just happen to be by far the best at it

the reason you get coaches moaning about it is because they got controlled and were not allowed to play the game plan they wanted. Rather than moaning about it try find a way of beating it simple.

I've not seen the footage hence why I didn't comment on the tries one way or the other - just thought I'd mention that we do get Sky Sports outside of Wigan.
I'm also familiar with the reasons for why video isn't used to adjudicate on forward passes. However - if a pass is forward it often looks forward on video too. That's
because it's forward. You tries may have been fine - as I say not seen them so can't comment.

We don't visit other forums, as we are so far up our own ar$e$

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Quote ="megadyne66"And the FC fans say all they players did nothing wrong yeah right ... www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html'" Why isn't Manu up for apparently trying to take off Sam "Oscar" Tomkins head ?

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