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| Quote ="NSW"What on earth'"
He hits harder, tackles well above his weight. Book mark this post and review it in a few years.
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| Quote ="post"He hits harder, tackles well above his weight. Book mark this post and review it in a few years.'"
Sam Powell has been one of the best defending hookers in the league for the past 7 year. But yeah some 18 year old whose never played against men is better defender.
I’m in agreement we need to start looking at alternatives to Powell but some of the comments are ridiculous.
I hope Forbers a great player for us
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| Quote ="NSW"Sam Powell has been one of the best defending hookers in the league for the past 7 year. But yeah some 18 year old whose never played against men is better defender.
I’m in agreement we need to start looking at alternatives to Powell but some of the comments are ridiculous.
I hope Forbers a great player for us'"
Just because you’ve not seen Forber do it doesn’t mean you can discredit someone’s opinion who has seen it. Powell works hard and does lots of tackling, Forber hits harder and works hard and does plenty tackling.
If both players were starting their careers now then Powell wouldn’t get a look in.
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| Quote ="bedfordwarrior"Also, why have Cust and Smith switched sides this season? Cust whenever I see him play seems to like to step off his left foot as one of his go to options and going the other side surely negates that.
Also seems totally unnecessary to me when we've already got new centres and the right second row trying to build combos with those around them, to also have the halfbacks getting settled in on the opposite side is maybe a bit too much.'"
Dying to know the theory being Cust and Smith switching sides.
French scored a bag full last year when Smith was with him
On the right. Now Marshall has scored a load so far this year now Smith has moved to the left.
Cust is bad.
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| Quote ="post"
If both players were starting their careers now then Powell wouldn’t get a look in.'"
That maybe the case, but it has no relevance to the current situation.
I’m sure Forber will have s great career but at the moment he cannot be expected to play week in week out in SL especially given the state of the support he would have around him.
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| Quote ="post"I’d second the statement that Tom Forber is the best hooker in the squad and I’d rather him play than Powell. He’s quick out of dummy half and tackles better than Powell.'"
He’d get targeted at SL level. Surely you don’t mean that?
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| Quote ="Shabino"He’d get targeted at SL level. Surely you don’t mean that?'"
He’d get targeted and would stop every player that ran at him.
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| Quote ="post"He’d get targeted and would stop every player that ran at him.'"
Are you his agent or his dad? Maybe both?
He’s a very good prospect but he is 3rd/4th choice at the moment, that will probably change next year and the year after but he cannot be expected to play week in week out in this current pack.
If our pack was taking teams apart he may be a good shout for 10 games this year off the bench but better he develop out of the first team cauldron on loan in my opinion.
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| Quote ="post"He’d get targeted and would stop every player that ran at him.'"
Give over, he’d get battered and probably ruin his career!
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| I’m already wondering the impact that Lee Briers might have had at Wigan…?
I always liked the idea of having someone of his quality as part of the coaching team, especially an outsider.
Early days but it’s a drab start.
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| It is early days and do believe we will improve.
Really need to start getting in to games from kick off. Had a lazy start vs KR, wakefields well Wakefield, cas we had errors everyhwhere and same with Cat.
The optimist in me sees we’ve not been massively blown away and attack doesn’t appear to be clicking 100%
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| It is early days and do believe we will improve.
Really need to start getting in to games from kick off. Had a lazy start vs KR, wakefields well Wakefield, cas we had errors everyhwhere and same with Cat.
The optimist in me sees we’ve not been massively blown away and attack doesn’t appear to be clicking 100%
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| Quote ="WWste"It is early days and do believe we will improve.
Really need to start getting in to games from kick off. Had a lazy start vs KR, wakefields well Wakefield, cas we had errors everyhwhere and same with Cat.
The optimist in me sees we’ve not been massively blown away and attack doesn’t appear to be clicking 100%'"
Our forwards need to improve massively.
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| Quote ="dany1979"I’m already wondering the impact that Lee Briers might have had at Wigan…?
I always liked the idea of having someone of his quality as part of the coaching team, especially an outsider.
Early days but it’s a drab start.'"
I said the same thing to the mrs when we where watching the game
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| Quote ="Zig"Our forwards need to improve massively.'"
We need some new forwards
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| There has to be at least one forward signed if we’re to compete for a trophy IMO and a brave decision needs to be made around the hooking position.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"There has to be at least one forward signed if we’re to compete for a trophy IMO and a brave decision needs to be made around the hooking position.'"
Hopefully we will sign a big nasty prop during the season
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"There has to be at least one forward signed if we’re to compete for a trophy IMO and a brave decision needs to be made around the hooking position.'"
It’s not rocket science is it? We know and the Club know, more importantly, that we need better forwards. What we have is simply not good enough. There are 11 players off contract at the end of the season so there is ample opportunity to deliver positive change.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"There has to be at least one forward signed if we’re to compete for a trophy IMO and a brave decision needs to be made around the hooking position.'"
The coaches need to take the shackles off Powell or go a completely different route.
As an ex HB I’d like to think that Powell should be able to play a more expansive and varied game the problem is I’m not sure that he can do it at a much quicker tempo. Maybe O’Neil could do it but I’ve never seen him play that way.
To play Cust at 9 would mean Field at 6 and personally I don’t think Field is a HB in any way.
Forber would be very high risk but for me worth a pop. At least have him on the bench.
The thinness of the squad is my biggest concern followed by a pedestrian starts to every game.
We’ve beaten 2 teams who in all likelihood will finish in the bottom two and failed pretty miserably against 2 average teams. The coaches have got to resolve our slow starts pdq or we will struggle against virtually every team this season. I’ve by no means written the season off but currently, my expectations are quite low.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Think we will still be in the hunt for top 2. My biggest worry is that we're a dry weather team and will limp out of the playoffs again.'"
Obviously when summer arrives I’d like think that we will see an improvement however, by that time from a table position a top 2 will be beyond reach unless we see a major turnaround. In the short term and maybe long term we have very few options. Throw in some long term injuries and we have virtually nothing in reserve.
The coaching staff will have to really earn their pay this season to get us competing against any side that turns up prepared to defend as if their lives depend on it.
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| Quote ="post"He’d get targeted and would stop every player that ran at him.'"
Just a quick following up on Forber being “the best hooker in our squad by a country mile” and “better defensively than Powell”
He made 12 tackles for Wakefield whilst missing 4 and had zero carries.
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| Quote ="NSW"Just a quick following up on Forber being “the best hooker in our squad by a country mile” and “better defensively than Powell”
He made 12 tackles for Wakefield whilst missing 4 and had zero carries.'"
How many minutes did he play?
Did he play any minutes whilst Wakefield were down to 12 men?
How many ptb did Wakefield have whilst Forber played?
I don’t know the answers but would help to start to give some semblance of context.
I think even Roby would struggle in the current Wakefield team.
How do his stats compare with other players currently out on loan last week?
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"How many minutes did he play?
Did he play any minutes whilst Wakefield were down to 12 men?
How many ptb did Wakefield have whilst Forber played?
I don’t know the answers but would help to start to give some semblance of context.
I think even Roby would struggle in the current Wakefield team.
How do his stats compare with other players currently out on loan last week?'"
I think the important stat there was that he missed 25% of his tackle attempts, regardless of any scenario's that is poor. Shows the absurdity of a comment stating that an untested youngster is already a better prospect and defender then a seasoned pro who is regarded as a good defender like powell.
But the lad is still very young and he will benefit massively from this Super League experiece that he is getting at wakey. Only positives can come from this loan deal.
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