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| With genuine talent so thin on the ground in Superleague, it's both frustrating and sad that we look to be losing another to acts of self destructive stupidity.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"He’s involved as far as one of the passengers in the car has been charged with possession of class A.
Now of course Zak might not have known his mate had it, but you’d have to be pretty naive to think that given who his mates are.'"
You are a bitter obsessed Stalker, You've been sat waiting for this since day one, I bet your sat there now wringing your hands together hoping Cas will re-sign him
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| Quote ="RichieS"Absolute non-sense. Zero involvement with any drug...only alcohol intoxication and his own stupidity are to blame!
Zak won't be a Wigan player next year, of that I am sure. I would like to add that I am not 100% sure Zak is entirely devastated about that!
I believe David Mead and the Toulouse #1 Mark Kheirallah are already notable targets.'"
Well you have never been wrong before!!!
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| Was Hardaker present when Tony Adams visited -
Earlier this week the squad were visited by former England and Arsenal football captain Tony Adams who came to speak to the players about welfare, professionalism and his Sporting Chance Clinic. On the afternoon with Mr Adams, Shaun Wane said, “He’s a legend and a man who spoke very honesty. In any way if we can help players welfare and make sure they can have good lives then I will support that.”
I hope he took the contact details
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| Didn't want us to sign him, don't want to give him his 10th chance now. Get rid, use the marquee spot to entice either an NRL halfback or Gale.
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| Quote ="stpatricks"Was Hardaker present when Tony Adams visited -
Earlier this week the squad were visited by former England and Arsenal football captain Tony Adams who came to speak to the players about welfare, professionalism and his Sporting Chance Clinic. On the afternoon with Mr Adams, Shaun Wane said, “He’s a legend and a man who spoke very honesty. In any way if we can help players welfare and make sure they can have good lives then I will support that.”
I hope he took the contact details'"
Big Tony was partial to a drop iirc
As for Hardaker.
He can do one. Honestly just get rid now.
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| What a complete and utter prat. It's impossible to even imagine what must go through his head.
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"You are a bitter obsessed Stalker, You've been sat waiting for this since day one, I bet your sat there now wringing your hands together hoping Cas will re-sign him
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Hmmmm. Not quite sure where to start with that one, but I’ll have a go.
1. I’d hardly call it stalking. He’s a high profile RL player who is banned for drug use, sacked by Cas and signed by Wigan. His issues, including his recent drink driving charge, are all over the press and the internet. I’m hardly posting what he’s buying in Tesco or revealing stuff about his private life (in fact another poster in this thread brought up something I considered to be over the line).
2. I’ve not been waiting for it to happen, though I was pretty sure it would. I’m about the most sympathetic Castleford supporter you’ll find towards Zak. I’ve said numerous times that I hope he sorts himself out and that his welfare and well-being come above club rivalries and RL. He’s a nice bloke who suffers from mental health issues that impair his decision-making. I’m pretty sure he sis t wake up on Tuesday planning to drink and drive. I’m pretty sure he now regrets doing it. It’s just that when he’s faced with a choice, his mental health means he can’t make the rational one. He’ll apologie and it will be sincere. But when he’s in a similar situation, at that moment in time, he’ll make another bad choice.
3. Drinking and driving kills innocent people and destroys lives. To suggest I’m glad anyone is doing it is pretty offensive to be honest.
4. I said from the day he was banned that I didn’t want him back at Cas and I’ve never wavered. As you’re finding out, he’s not worth the hassle.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"I mustn’t be the only one now who is sick to the back teeth of reading or hearing about his well documented history? Just give the lad a bloody chance!'"
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| Quote ="ChrisA"What a complete and utter prat. It's impossible to even imagine what must go through his head.'"
That's the problem, everything goes through is head he cant retain anything, especially common sense!
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| Quote ="Sweaty Betty's"That's the problem, everything goes through is head he cant retain anything, especially common sense!'"
We are merely fans of a sports team, it's not our livelihood etc, we just get to feel frustrated by it. I wonder what he feels like after the event? He's had a few events now in his career, non as yet seem to have impacted his behaviour as he clearly has no self control.
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| Quote ="TOMCAT"The countdown to meltdown starts on the 8th of September, tick tick tick
But he'll be great for you guys until the inevitable happens
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19 days, way to go Zac !
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| Just get rid.
I hope for his own sake he can sort out whatever problems he has, as we certainly don’t want another Newton.
But Wigan can’t seriously keep him now, I always got the impression that he wasn’t that bothered about playing for Wigan anyway.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"The fact you're on here at all indicates that this is something you clearly hope for. But you're going to be disappointed.
Check the responses on here from other Wigan fans.
How many seem upset? Or even surprised.
Most were prepared to give him a shot - and that was the extent of it. He didn't make it, and so most now want rid.'"
You’ve no idea why I’m on here & your assumption that I want to see Wigan fans upset/angry/annoyed couldn’t couldn’t be wider off the mark (fans have my sympathy, they support the club not individuals) My first point on the matter was about the resentment some still hold towards ZH; personally I couldn’t give too hoots about the lad; he’s done & will continue to do much worse before the light comes on.
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| I don't see why people are taking out their irritation on the couple or so Cas fans who have posted here. Seems to me their comments have been fine and on topic.
As for ZH, it's hard to imagine Wigan fans accepting him now; surely any chance of his putting on a Wigan jersey have now gone for good? I certainly hope so.
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| Quote ="snowie"icon_biggrin.gifOH:'"
Yep. Give him a chance - at the time was IMHO and a lot of other posters and fans opinion, the right thing to do at the time given his proven quality. I’m more than happy to be proved wrong but in this case it was the absolute last thing I wanted.
That chance was given and subsequently blown, give him all the stick you, we and I please now. If he remains a Wigan player it’s a bloody disgrace.
As you may see I’ve distinctly moved off the fence into the get rid side in the last few hours.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Didn't want us to sign him, don't want to give him his 10th chance now. Get rid, use the marquee spot to entice either an NRL halfback or Gale.'"
hes not marquee
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| Didn’t want us to sign him but when we did I was prepared to give him a chance to show he’s finally growing up and making a go of his career. Sadly he isn’t able to keep his head down and he should get no more chances at this club because he simply isn’t worth the risk.
Over before it began is how this should end.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"Yep. Give him a chance - at the time was IMHO and a lot of other posters and fans opinion, the right thing to do at the time given his proven quality. I’m more than happy to be proved wrong but in this case it was the absolute last thing I wanted.
That chance was given and subsequently blown, give him all the stick you, we and I please now. If he remains a Wigan player it’s a bloody disgrace.
As you may see I’ve distinctly moved off the fence into the get rid side in the last few hours.'" we have a dick in the family that keeps going off the rails, I given more support, financially, supportive, taken to the hospital when needed all thrown back in our faces all at a time when my mrs father came down with dementia left our lass in the lurch not bad for a son eh, yr gone by and he's come back as nothing has happened,
zac has had his chances he needs a chaperone who will be at his side 24/7 who's trustworthy otherwise he's just another waster
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| The saving grace for Wigan is that he has done this now, and not in 12 months time, on the eve of a Grand Final, after a Man of Steel winning year.
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| Say what you want about Gareth Hock but there is someone who took the correct path when he could have easily gone down the wrong one after his ban. Got his head down and grafted and is still playing to this day. Zak could learn a lot from him
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Say what you want about Gareth Hock but there is someone who took the correct path when he could have easily gone down the wrong one after his ban. Got his head down and grafted and is still playing to this day. Zak could learn a lot from him
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Or maybe Gaz just didn’t get caught?
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"Or maybe Gaz just didn’t get caught?'"
Like a few more who were with him on the night!
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| Quote ="Sweaty Betty's"Like a few more who were with him on the night!'"
The stories I hear I’m amazed more players haven’t been banned,luckily for them the stuff is so watered down it’s out of their system in no time.
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| Quote ="RichieS"He's fine. Had over 9 RDT in the last 13 weeks and aced them all. He's well aware of the doubts everyone has and is very much looking forward to kicking off the season next year. He is 30/40% off the pace and knows he has his work cut out to get match fit for next year, that is the only worry we should really have as Wigan fans.'"
Did you seriously believe that?
There is just no helping the lad but he seems to pull the wool over some eyes and get chance after chance. No doubt if you sack him there will be a que of SL clubs willing to give him his "Last chance".
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