Welcome to yesterday.

still on our forum then

I'm no Bailey fan but there was nothing wrong with that on half time. Haven't Wigan fans been moaning all year about their right to complete a tackle?

I did, however, enjoy Webb dropping the ball in a little PTB paddy, then getting cut in half by TL

I enjoyed the faces of the Leeds players receiving their losers medals

i'm very happy you got your apology, must have been heartbreaking what Sam did

to be fair what Sam did was wrong and the club and player are right to issur an apology I would now expect at the most a fine from the RFL and lots of stick for Sam when he goes back to Leeds (no change there)

case closed

move on

He joins a long list of other players who've finally cracked under the stress of a big match and constant, abusive barracking from certainly sections of the crowd (though not too many who've experienced it from their own fans during an international, I must admit - I don't think Leeds fans should be totally surprised that they were singled out).

However he was stupid, and it was the right thing for the club and the player to issue an apology.

Wigan fans have booed Long and McGuire in the VERY recent past in internationals, so not sure why all of a sudden it's deemed a heinous crime.

Some short memories, but hey that's sport!



Shame the match isn't really being spoken about, I really enjoyed it. Much better than I thought (the first 30 mins were what I expected the 80 to pan out like!).

So talk about it... Instead of adding to the "debate".

Longy was booed by everyone for bringing the game into disrepute in a big way, not because he was a talent. I don't recall McGuire being booed by any England fans in the international arena. I remember him being booed by Wigan fans for cheating them out of a Grand Final place last year. That is all. It was not during an international.

As for it being a heinous crime ... you're right, it isn't. But it still explains why players respond the way they do. King, Eastmond and Briers have all done similar in the last couple of years. You need to be a saint to not respond to constant touchline abuse.

What he did was quite rightly wrong, which is why to set an example, I've downloaded it as my desk top to remind me how wrong it was for him to react in the way he did to those Wonderful Articulate Nice Kind Enthusiatic Really Sensible yorkshire men.

You probably weren't at the DW in October 2009 then? McGuire was booed every time he touched the ball. A year before the "Trip-gate" incident.

But, like you, I can't feel excited about players giving a bit back to the fans. They shouldn't, since they're paid to be there, but they do. It gets a verdict of "meh" from me.

In fairness, Tomkins gets more attention because he's a talent, but I think if he were being honest he would admit that he's fond of the odd wind-up. Personally I think it's quite funny, but I would imagine the booing owes much of it's existence to that side of the lad's character. As I'm sure you know really.

far to many people are calling for his head and a ban simply because it was on the bbc infront of more fans bla bla bla..... a high tackle or a dirty shot wouldnt be punished more severly simply because it was infront of more fans so why should this? The RFL should do nothing but be consistent, which if similar incidents are anything to go by would mean a slap on the wrist and a fine, which no one can have any argument with.

If like us you watched Sam week in and week out, you would be as angry as us if you saw all the high shots and late tackles he takes...

I don't remember that, but I'm not saying it didn't happen. Maybe we're talking about players getting booed because they were simply being played off the park? That wouldn't surprise me, given the good hidings the Aussies have recently given our national sides, and if that's what we're referring to, that also is a different thing. However, if McGuire was being singled out when so many others around him were crap as well, it was bang out of order.

I agree that this is not the major incident it's being made out to be. Players are only human and feel immense pressure in big games, etc.

But Sam was stupid to react the way he did. It's good to see him get fined by the club. If the RFL also want to impose a penalty, then fair enough - I just hope it's consistent with those other case's we've mentioned.

We all like it mate!

RFL are listing disciplinaries at the moment: www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary

RFL are listing disciplinaries at the moment: www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary

Just because the England game was played at Leeds doesn't mean it was only Leeds supporters that were booing him - he is disliked by a lot of supporters at other clubs. A player with all that talent, natural speed and agility should be loved by everyone at international level but is down to him to earn the respect of England supporters not to just expect it. This is a very good first step and I applaud him for taking it and look forward to seeing him in an England shirt in the four nations.

Quote ="Salopian Warrior"RFL are listing disciplinaries at the moment: www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary'" Is Sinfield going to get cited for deliberately taking Richards out in the air whilst he was in the act of scoring?

Quote ="Salopian Warrior"RFL are listing disciplinaries at the moment: www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary'" Is Sinfield going to get cited for deliberately taking Richards out in the air whilst he was in the act of scoring?

Like all the other England players you mean?

I don't expect everyone to love him, but the fact that he's wearing an England shirt should at least mean he doesn't get booed.

I don't think it does - the fact is (whether you believe it or not as a Wigan supporter) he is renowned for being a cheat and for showing a lack of respect to the other team's supporters. Why should we just forget that because he pulls on an England shirt. However, this apology is a good, genuine first step imo.

I agree.

To achieve what you're hoping for, however, requires fans of RL in this country to be able to check their club agendas at the gate for internationals. They don't though. Tomkins isn't the first to get the treatment while on international duty and he won't be the last. The "home" crowd has picked at least one England/GB player to get stuck into at almost every test match I've been to, be it at Leeds, Wigan, Hudds, Hull or wherever.

I'll be off down to Wembley again in November hoping for it to be different, but it's more hope than expectation.

and so the next time a player is offside or throws a forward pass we should boo them when they play internationally because [iobviously[/i theyre cheating?



also i still dont understand why sam is a "cheat". yes, hes a little git but i wouldnt say he was a cheat.

Unlike Sinfield and McGuire.

Yes, all infringements while jumping for a high kick are sent to the disciplinary. Aren't they? They're not? Oh.

I really wouldn't like to imagine what you'd be like if you'd lost!