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Genuinely think he'd be good for you lot for a couple of years. Knows how to steer a team around the pitch (which Wigan criminally lack at times) and has a bit of x-factor.
We'll see I suppose, but he would be one of the few players to leave Saints for Wigan who would get nothing but warm applause from me and I expect most Saints fans would be the same.
Do it Longy!!
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I wonder if Long and Nobby have kissed and made up.
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| Quote ="Pemps"I wonder if Long and Nobby have kissed and made up.
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Doubt you'd spend so long on Warrington's line without scoring with Longy in the side.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"Would you genuinally stop supporting Wigan Rugby League we they signed Long?'"
Yes.
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| Quote ="RB"Yes.'"
oooooooooooooo, you'll get ripped for that! (not by me though )
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| Quote ="RB"Yes.'"
Fair enough, but why?
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| Quote ="RB"Yes.'"
You'd walk if we signed Long.
But you didn't when we signed one of his ex coaches Ian Millward??
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"Fair enough, but why?'"
Its a tough one. I hate the bloke, people cannot say that he has not done anything towards Wigan over the years, he has. Various times he has made jestures to the Wigan fans.
The bloke has too much history playing against Wigan to become a Wigan player. On top of that Wigan would not want him anywhere near Gleeson.
He will never re-sign for Wigan, and if he did i personally would have a tough time supporting anything he does. And i think a large number of supporters would feel that way.
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"Its a tough one. I hate the bloke, people cannot say that he has not done anything towards Wigan over the years, he has. Various times he has made jestures to the Wigan fans.
The bloke has too much history playing against Wigan to become a Wigan player. On top of that Wigan would not want him anywhere near Gleeson.
He will never re-sign for Wigan, and if he did i personally would have a tough time supporting anything he does. And i think a large number of supporters would feel that way.'"
I've never seen Long make any jestures towards Wigan supporters apart from the odd wave and chuckle when we've thrown tons of abuse his way.
I hate Sean Long too, because he's a Wiganer who has been extremely successful whilst playing for our arch-rivals and has been a fantastic player for them. At the same time he's been one of their fans favourite, a character, cocky and a bit arrogant and I've hated everything he's done for them as it's all success with a player that Wigan haven't had.
Whether we should/shouldn't sign Sean Long should only be down to potential performance reasons only IMO.
But each to their own.
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| a few years ago I may have considered swallowing my pride and accepting the signing of him cos he was a class player. Although still a decent player hes on the wrong side of 30 and not exactly playing well.
A simple answer to this for mine. NO.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"I've never seen Long make any jestures towards Wigan supporters apart from the odd wave and chuckle when we've thrown tons of abuse his way.
I hate Sean Long too, because he's a Wiganer who has been extremely successful whilst playing for our arch-rivals and has been a fantastic player for them. At the same time he's been one of their fans favourite, a character, cocky and a bit arrogant and I've hated everything he's done for them as it's all success with a player that Wigan haven't had.
Whether we should/shouldn't sign Sean Long should only be down to potential performance reasons only IMO.
But each to their own.'"
Very good post.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"and for wigan, making his home debut, number 7, Sean Long
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Pathetic, like iv said, he's still by far the best number 7 in the country and an ideal player for Tomkins to learn off, id love to have him for 2 years. He'd take us round the pitch, he's exactly what we need. As for the people who would stop going, ta ta
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"I've never seen Long make any jestures towards Wigan supporters '"
Thats because he hasn't, we hate him because he's class, AND THAT REASON ONLY, im praying we sign him.
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| Quote ="21-12"Thats because he hasn't, we hate him because he's class, AND THAT REASON ONLY, im praying we sign him.'"
Thats true. But he is currently overated, and I would not want him at Wigan.
If you want someone to direct us around the park just get Andy Greg to stand in the middle of the pitch and do it, Long would not do much more than that. I rate his career higher than any other half-back still playing in this country, but he is past his best days. We would be signing him off reputation and not his ability, people complain when people are picked for the national team on reputation so why should we settle for that at our club.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Thats true. But he is currently overated, and I would not want him at Wigan.
If you want someone to direct us around the park just get Andy Greg to stand in the middle of the pitch and do it, Long would not do much more than that. I rate his career higher than any other half-back still playing in this country, but he is past his best days. We would be signing him off reputation and not his ability, people complain when people are picked for the national team on reputation so why should we settle for that at our club.'"
From what iv seen of him this year, he's still the country's best number 7, and if not, tell me who is? even without the pace he used to have, he's still the most creative, his kicking game is second to none and he takes his team around the park superbly. Exactly what we want.
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| Quote ="21-12"From what iv seen of him this year, he's still the country's best number 7, and if not, tell me who is? even without the pace he used to have, he's still the most creative, his kicking game is second to none and he takes his team around the park superbly. Exactly what we want.'"
Dobson hands down is the best 7 in SL
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All better players than Long
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All are better than Long.
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| Quote ="21-12"From what iv seen of him this year, he's still the country's best number 7, and if not, tell me who is? even without the pace he used to have, he's still the most creative, his kicking game is second to none and he takes his team around the park superbly. Exactly what we want.'"
When watching him in the cup game against Catalans he was pretty shocking and still got MOM, he is a player based on reputation of which I am the first to admit is a terrific one but whenever he does anything half decent he gets more credit for it because of his reputation. I personally would rather have Burrow than Long at 7 for England. For us I would have neither I would go all out to get Orford, Thurston or Lockyer.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Dobson hands down is the best 7 in SL
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Dont talk stupid. Anyone with any RL knowledge knows Long is still the best, followed by Dobson, Myler's played half a season in SL and showed glimpses that he's going to be a good number 7. Leuluai is a decent, dangerous 7, but organisation wise, and genuine natural talent he doesn't come close to Long.
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| Quote ="21-12"Dont talk stupid. Anyone with any RL knowledge knows Long is still the best, followed by Dobson, Myler's played half a season and showed glimpses that he's going to be a good number 7. Leuluai is a decent, dangerous 7, bur organisation wise, and genuine natural talent he doesn't come close to Long.'"
Sorry i must have missed Long ripping SL up this year????
He was once a good player but at this moment in time Dobson & Myler are in better form than him
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Sorry i must have missed Long ripping SL up this year????
He was once a good player but at this moment in time Dobson & Myler are in better form than him'"
Remind me who is top of Super League?? Myler has shown glimpses, but not enough for people to start saying "sign him", and would you really want to run with 2 very young half backs next season? Long is proven SL class, Why you are mentioning Dobson, I really dont know, what you makes you think he'd leave Hull KR? Long would be perfect for 2 years, everyone knows it, nobody wants to admit it. Form is tempory, class is permanent.
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| Quote ="21-12"Dont talk stupid. Anyone with any RL knowledge knows Long is still the best, followed by Dobson, Myler's played half a season in SL and showed glimpses that he's going to be a good number 7. Leuluai is a decent, dangerous 7, but organisation wise, and genuine natural talent he doesn't come close to Long.'"
Dickie he aint been half the player this season - dobson is well ahead of him
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| Quote ="21-12"Dont talk stupid. Anyone with any RL knowledge knows Long is still the best, followed by Dobson, Myler's played half a season in SL and showed glimpses that he's going to be a good number 7. Leuluai is a decent, dangerous 7, but organisation wise, and genuine natural talent he doesn't come close to Long.'"
Long is not the best anymore at all although he was for a very long time.
Dobson can organise a team just as well, he also has a better kicking game atm, he is far quicker than long, from what I have seen this season his hands are much better, Long has thrown our many poor balls.
Dobson is a much better player than Long IMO.
Myler from what I have seen has outplayed Long this season, on the attacking side of things and creativity, maybe not organisation but he is still young.
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| I bet Saints sign Myler to replace Long in 18 months time.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Long is not the best anymore at all although he was for a very long time.
Dobson can organise a team just as well, he also has a better kicking game atm, he is far quicker than long, from what I have seen this season his hands are much better, Long has thrown our many poor balls.
Dobson is a much better player than Long IMO.
Myler from what I have seen has outplayed Long this season, on the attacking side of things and creativity, maybe not organisation but he is still young.'"
But Long is available, I dont know why you keep mentioning Dobson, fair enough he's a good player but he's happy were he is. Long is a born, proven winner. He's naturally a quality RL player, Long would improve our team by a mile, we havn't got an organiser at all, nor have we got a player who is capable of breaking the line. Like I have just read on the Saints site, do you think we would have had all them sets on Warrington's line without scoring if we had Long? He's lost a bit of pace, thats it. He's still capable of ripping defence's apart, and you can say what you like about him, he'd love to play for his home town club, he's a Wigan lad.
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| Quote ="21-12"But Long is available, I dont know why you keep mentioning Dobson, fair enough he's a good player but he's happy were he is. Long is a born, proven winner. He's naturally a quality RL player, Long would improve our team by a mile, we havn't got an organiser at all, nor have we got a player who is capable of breaking the line. Like I have just read on the Saints site, do you think we would have had all them sets on Warrington's line without scoring if we had Long? He's lost a bit of pace, thats it. He's still capable of ripping defence's apart, and you can say what you like about him, he'd love to play for his home town club, he's a Wigan lad.'"
Im mentioning Dobson because you said Long was the best 7 in super league, but he is not anymore, Dobson is. Long would be a step up I agree but we could have a bigger one signing afew other players, players who are also available.
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