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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"Wouldn't fancy any of those. Fifita isn't within a country mile of his brother. He is sloppy and ill disciplined.
I wouldn't mind taking a punt on that bloke at Leigh called Hansen. Haven't seen much of him though.'"
Promising young lad called Hock that plays for them, too, he'd be worth a tryout...
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| I was watching one of those old games on Wigan TV the other day. and Hock looked a different class to most others on the pitch. Such a shame.
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| Quote ="Aboveusonlypie"Wouldn't fancy any of those. Fifita isn't within a country mile of his brother. He is sloppy and ill disciplined.
I wouldn't mind taking a punt on that bloke at Leigh called Hansen. Haven't seen much of him though.'"
Really? Leigh fans have been quite critical of him this year, I don't think he's going very well from what I've seen.
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| Honestly can't think of a prop in the UK who I really rate.
Hill is ok and does decent minutes but missing the mongrel for me to be a top prop. Walmsley seems seems incapable of doing decent minutes.
The number of interchanges has had major detrimental effect on the quality and stamina of players within the game in general and with props in particular.
FPN for me is next to useless this season after a very average first season. Blows out of his arris after a few minutes and has about as much aggression as my 5 year old grandson. Another Southsea Islander who is overrated, overpaid and over here.
I'm afraid I have no answer on who to bring in but for me apart from Sutton and TT (maybe Clubby if he returns) the rest of our props are poor in the extreme therefore we need at least 2 or 3 props next season on the assumption that we can hopefully retain TT.
If I'm totally honest I find that the present day prop at Wigan a bit of a mystery. None can do decent minutes, apart from Sutton I couldn't see any other sorting out an opposing shoitehouse and none do the hard yards from inside our 20 metre line.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"Honestly can't think of a prop in the UK who I really rate.
Hill is ok and does decent minutes but missing the mongrel for me to be a top prop. Walmsley seems seems incapable of doing decent minutes.
The number of interchanges has had major detrimental effect on the quality and stamina of players within the game in general and with props in particular.
FPN for me is next to useless this season after a very average first season. Blows out of his arris after a few minutes and has about as much aggression as my 5 year old grandson. Another Southsea Islander who is overrated, overpaid and over here.
I'm afraid I have no answer on who to bring in but for me apart from Sutton and TT (maybe Clubby if he returns) the rest of our props are poor in the extreme therefore we need at least 2 or 3 props next season on the assumption that we can hopefully retain TT.
If I'm totally honest I find that the present day prop at Wigan a bit of a mystery. None can do decent minutes, apart from Sutton I couldn't see any other sorting out an opposing shoitehouse and none do the hard yards from inside our 20 metre line.'"
You've almost answered your own point there. In that because there are no opposition props to be feared and counteracted, it's hardly cost effective to have a highly paid one on your own team, when the salary cap money is seen as better spent on the more glamourous backs and halves. Yeah, I'd love to have the modern equivalent of Platt and Skerrett back, but it would be at a cost elsewhere in the side.
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"[urlhttps://www.zerotackle.com/rugby-league/super-league/[/url
Not sure how accurate or up-to-date that is, but a few interesting ones on there. I'd definitely take Sims or Fifita or both if TT and FPN leave.
Also, I know he isn't a prop but I'd be trying everything to get McMeeken if he still hasn't signed a new deal.'"
They tied McMeekan to a new deal. It doesn't look madly accurate as it's got Laithwaite at Wire when he's playing for Toronto and it's got Leuluai out of contract with us.
If the rest is accurate though three props I think the club could do a job with and improve are Bousquet, George Griffin and Alex Gerrard.
All three are raw but they've got talent and loads of improvement in them. It'll be players of that mould who we'll sign if anybody imo.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"They tied McMeekan to a new deal. It doesn't look madly accurate as it's got Laithwaite at Wire when he's playing for Toronto and it's got Leuluai out of contract with us.
If the rest is accurate though three props I think the club could do a job with and improve are Bousquet, George Griffin and Alex Gerrard.
All three are raw but they've got talent and loads of improvement in them. It'll be players of that mould who we'll sign if anybody imo.'"
Bousquet is a great shout IMO
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Bousquet is a great shout IMO'"
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| Quote ="[Gareth"When i read that i thought you meant Ashton Simms so i had to check, and you DID! He is one big girls blouse and he shouldnt be anywhere our team'"
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"They tied McMeekan to a new deal. It doesn't look madly accurate as it's got Laithwaite at Wire when he's playing for Toronto and it's got Leuluai out of contract with us.
If the rest is accurate though three props I think the club could do a job with and improve are Bousquet, George Griffin and Alex Gerrard.
All three are raw but they've got talent and loads of improvement in them. It'll be players of that mould who we'll sign if anybody imo.'"
Aye, they fit the profile of player we tend to go for. There's a few interesting names out of contract in the NRL too. Wouldn't mind us going for someone like Albert Vete from the Warriors, similar player to Sene-Lefao who's been great for Cas.
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| I was thinking about Vete and Charlie Gubb a while back, but must admit, I've cooled on those two a bit lately. Agree that Sene-Lefao has been a good signing for Cas. And even more so, Junior Moors.
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I like David Fifita at Wakey, a real handful he is every time I've seen him.
As far as I'm aware he's out of contract at the end of this season:
m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/37823654
Come on Radders get on it!!
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I like David Fifita at Wakey, a real handful he is every time I've seen him.
As far as I'm aware he's out of contract at the end of this season:
m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/37823654
Come on Radders get on it!!
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| Our overseas recruitment has been poor to say the least. I don't even need a Castleford finger count for the amount of overseas signings that have been good in the last 10 years - Hoffman, Carmont, Barrett, Bowen (ish), Gelling (ish).
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| Quote ="moto748"I was thinking about Vete and Charlie Gubb a while back, but must admit, I've cooled on those two a bit lately. Agree that Sene-Lefao has been a good signing for Cas. And even more so, Junior Moors.'"
Why's that? Have they been turd this year? And yeah Moors is quality.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Our overseas recruitment has been poor to say the least. I don't even need a Castleford finger count for the amount of overseas signings that have been good in the last 10 years - Hoffman, Carmont, Barrett, Bowen (ish), Gelling (ish).'"
Green? Or do you mean players signed directly from Aus? I'd add Finch to that list as well thought he was class the short time he was here.
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"Why's that? Have they been turd this year? And yeah Moors is quality.'"
Neither have had many minutes this season, their stats are ordinary.
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| What about Japanese union props?
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| Quote ="moto748"Neither have had many minutes this season, their stats are ordinary.'"
Don't think that matters too much, Sene-Lefao played only 6 games last year for Cronulla. And if they're out of favour with the Warriors there's more chance they'll come over.
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| Well, maybe. But personally, I'd rate Sene-Lefao well above those two.
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| Quote ="moto748"Well, maybe. But personally, I'd rate Sene-Lefao well above those two.'"
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| Theres rumours Alex Gerrard is heading to you guys next year.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Theres rumours Alex Gerrard is heading to you guys next year.'"
We have enough injuries already without signing someone with dodgy knees.
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"What about Japanese union props?'"
Interesting proposition, it'll be a "developmental signing" such as Flower/Clubb/Sarginson etc but one which would certainly raise eyebrows.
The potential, desire, fitness and general ball skills would have to be there for it to stand any chance. Without tarring all union props with the same brush, there is such a huge gulf between props of both codes in terms of work rate and general ball skills that a Union backrower/centre would probably be more suited to League propping.
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