I dont have a problem with him at all certainly not if he is coming coaching, and if the cap can be applied pro rata to the amount of games he playes then good.

I dont want a superstar signing, just a prop will do, as we arnt lettig tommy go, so your right no superstar will come to play seccond fiddle to tommy and sam.

To be fair, most clubs would only have two full time half backs, however im fully prepared for everyone now to list the ones to the contrary!

Just dont rate deacon, never have. One trick pony for me.

Well Ian Lenagan is still here, and he's been in the firing line several times for his signings thus far. But people still, generally, seem to think that this move wouldn't be a bad one.

I think that to say "people wouldn't like this if Brian Noble had done it" is a little bit presumptuous and a little bit trite. It's also completely hypothetical. And it doesn't detract from what, on the surface, looks as if it could be a smart piece of thinking by all concerned.

It can't. Play one SL game and his full salary counts on the cap regardless of if he then spends the rest of the season coaching.

Dave

So? We will have and they won't. Will that not put us in a better position than them? Will that not make us more able to deal with an injury crisis?

More and more Wigan seem to be building a squad rather than a 17 man team. We'll now have cover, and good cover at that, for every position.

That is the difference between Dunners and Deacon, Dunneman was cheap.

If he's on megabucks, then yes it is a waste of cap. If he's on reserve team assistant coaches money, then it's peanuts.

Mellor has only recently made the step up from acadamy to reserves so it may be too early for him to play SL. I think he's only 18 and he's lighter weight than Sam.

Graeme West?

Probably what people are saying now. Some would be in favour and some would be against it.

When you get a minute, post all the players salaries.

Fair point. im only going on hearsay. but surely Deacon would be on a decent amount.

If he's coming as an assistant coach, he can't be earning megabucks and he can't expect megabucks either. Also if he's only acting as cover for the halfbacks then he can't expect to be earning decent money particularly if he's only going to get a few games. Obviously I'm not in a position to confirm his salary but that's how I'd imagine it panning out.

Deacon may be past his best but he is not totally spent. If he joins us and registers as a player McIllorum might as well move out now IMO.

Why? How does signing a 7 threaten a 9?

If that's the case i'd say it's a good signing.

Maybe he is coming in on a cheaper salary to learn from somebody who ive heard, is going to be brilliant for you lot.


Not wanting to be an butt licker but, i do fear you are going to be a challenge to us next year.

Let's be honest, I think more would be against it then for it.

Not many would be applauding BN and IL for signing a 30 year old scrum half rather than the 'enforcer' style prop most were calling out for before MM's appointment.

Sam and Deacs = HB, Tommy & Piggy = hooker, MM = redundant in my gloom laden scenario!!

Why?

Deacons not signing as a full on first team player, the only way he will get a game is if someone is injured.

From what i've heard the plan is for when Piggy leaves McIlorum gets the 9 shirt and Tommys the interchange hooker and we are looking at developing Mellor to take the No7 to partner Sam in 2 years.

If Deacon is signed in a coaching mentoring role to are halfbacks as well as providing backup in case of an injury then I'd be happy with it.

If his wages are kept to a minimum and he also acts as are kicking coach then it will be a good deal, I don't for a minute see him taking priority in the halfbacks and neither should he, if he's been brought into do the job that we all believe he has then it will be a good signing.

Just a prop now and were set.

I can't honestly see Deacs taking anyone's place in the first team unless there's an injury. I'd be very disappointed if that happened.

Me too. It's just that the Guardian article never even mentions him coming as a coach. I read this and take it that he is coming as a player.

Deacs has been an absolute legend for us and was the best scrum half in super league for three or four years but he's passed it now but sad to see him leave and you should be happy you've got deacs one word Legend.

We have 2 halfs that are still developing and who's kicking games aren't their strong suit at this moment in time. One of them in Leuluai also looks to be more then happy at hooker and his invention from that position along with a halfback pairing of a young exciting stand off and a steady eddy scrum half looks a terrific prospect(when we go that way).

Does anybody know what the salary cap situation would be if Deacon comes in as a player coach? what parts of his wage count to the cap? If he's down as a coach who's also registered on the playing staff could Wigan not say we're only paying him peanuts to play and the majority of his wage for coaching?

I'd like to know that, you could then decide if it's a good signing or not.

I would doubt it. If you could it would be something many clubs would exploit. I'd imagine if he's registered he counts on the cap and its simple as that.

i can see us signing deacon as a player and would be more than happy to see him in the cherry and white.

we need someone who can lead us around the pitch and deacon could. he would also bring on the game of sam and tommy. he provides another option to play and would keep the other halves and 9s on their toes.

i wouldnt mind seeing 6. tomkins 7. deacon 9. leuluai for several games next year.

He still has the potential to be a really dangerous player, but he's not as fast as he used to be and gets frequently injured. Will be sad if he leaves Odsal as I always expected he'd finish up with us, but if we do get Orford i'd be happy with that.

Like the Gleeson & Mathers deal both sides seem to happy with what they are getting out of it.