Sure. If it existed. But it doesn't.

Not sure what point you're trying to make with that.

Not trying to make any point, it's not me who must have spent an hour two trawling old posts, Grimmys the only one trying to make a point

Rumoured out goings but not many coming in

Frank Paul is the only every week starter leaving, should be replaced with a big enforcer.

Tommy I think will continue to play and play 7 unfortunatltv

Tierney rumoured to stay in France ( 3rd choice ful back 5th choice winger)

Breatherton rumoured to be released, not show anything for me Wells and Field already overtaken him.

Gregson rumoured to be realised. Disappointed in this as I thought he's showed potentials to be a proper ball playing loose forward.

Naverrette Home sick back to France - a shame

Shelford - released too small to be a forward.

Hopefully we'll see at least 2 signings to replace this lost, a starting prop and a good squad player ( thinking a Bateman/Sarginson type signing)

Clearly need fresh blood and a different approach to who we sign. I believe this won’t happen under the current regime.

The investment in ‘home grown talent’ along with resigning past players isn’t working; it’s there for all to see.

I remember speaking to West, he said Wigan have three different strands;
-promote the best youth with the academy
-target top talent from around the UK
-try for a marquee style top talent.

We arguably award contracts to too many of the young lads. Only the top few should to signed.
When was the last time we signed a top SL player from another club? Bateman as a young unproven player? As a recognised signing it was probably Fielden, about 12 years ago.

Sam and George neither are anything close to a marquee. A marquee would be throwing enough money at the likes of Inglis, Cronk or a NZ player to play SL making it worth their while to play SL.

I sew other clubs making bold moves, while we re-sign past players.

Looks like the recruitment may have started hearing about a 20 year old Aussie prop from Souths reserves.

Gabriel Hamlin.

Lets hope he can kick bloody goals!!!!!

He has kicked one for the U20s so there is hope!!!!!!!!!!!!

If we are talking to Souths, I believe they have released Dave Tyrell and Dane Neilsen. Tyrell could fit the bill for what we need.

Excuse my total lack of knowledge of NRL players but what position does Tyrell play and what are his best attributes?

Tyrell is a no nonsense, hard running prop. Quite quick and mobile. Have a look on YouTube at Tyrell - Rabitohs Superman.

Thanks Bigred.
Will have a look later but certainly at face value he would a step in the right direction

I see the Ben Reynolds rumour was quickly laid to rest. Signed a 3 year contract extension with Leigh.

I did squash it a good few days ago, when I touched base again I was told we didn't offer him guaranteed game time so he turned us down. Reaffirming my belief 6,7 & 9 will be GW, TL and MM in 2018.

Going to disagree with you.

6 ST
7 GW
9 MM

Escare should be FB on form.

I hope you're wrong, but have this horrible feeling that you're probably right!

You did indeed old boy but I'm one on those old fashioned types that likes to see it from the club rather than a rumour. No offence intended.

hes garbage anyway

We should certainly be aiming higher!

None taken...agree that as much as we should be aiming higher, I remember a certain Luke Gale looking similar for Bradford in relegation year, had a feeling this lad may just be the right fit for the club long term.

Gale has had a great season, yesterday apart.
I wonder what he'd have achieved if he'd been at Wigan behind our pack last season?
Not a lot I suspect.

Well he would of hit a lot more conversions for us that would of ultimately given us more league points, so probably ironically the same result as yesterday, an appearance at Old Trafford and a schooling!

The sad thing is even we would've done better then Cas yesterday. The atmosphere of Old Trafford under the lights isn't new to us but Cas just froze.

Tyrell is a prop and fairly big about 6 foot tall. Was dropped by Maguire but came back at the end of the season. Runs hard and is more consistent than most of our props. Not sure why Maguire dropped him, especially will the errors the Burgess twins made all season.

He’s been a fringe Origin player for Queensland in the past and he’s about 28/29.

Looking at him on YouTube he's built like a brick outdoor toilet as well although not the tallest. He certainly knows how to hit a ball close to the line, which would be nice as our props seem to be allergic to the try line paint (at least that's the impression they give).

To be fair, the salary cap has made it very difficult to sign top SL players. There tends to need to be a secondary reason for a player to move from one big club to another (e.g Bradford financial troubles with Fielden, off field issues with Gleeson and Hardaker). If you look at the other clubs, I can't think of too many examples, so don't think it's just us.

We have props? Are they the guys we use as dummy runners when our wingers take the ball in?