As much as I'm loathed to get involved in ridiculous petty squabbles, i pretty much agree with you.

I see you're not averse to lies of your own then:

[urlhttp://wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/2009/07/injury-update/[/url

You must admit though, that was naughty from Tomkins.

Ooof!

Fishta, will that info loosen that stick that's up your ar5e?

The problem that day was the referee not shouting held, Tomkins had every right to make that tackle.

lol

Yes, he did.
However, the manner in which he attacked the side of the players knee was the concern. I'm sure if you aksed Sam about it, he'd admit it wasn't a very gracious bit of play and wasn't the best bit of judgement.
99% of the time rugby league's a man's game and (most of) the players follow a certain gentleman's conduct. The game's tough enough without finding easy ways to injure players (that incident could've caused worse injury than it did).
Imagine if a team (proabably leeds) started using a tactic were one tackler would hold the ball player stationary , then another would target the side of the knee like that. We'd see rules brought in like the ones to ban the chicken wing tackle.

I digress. Back to the thread.

The bottom line is - had KC done that to a held up Sam Tomkins and injured his knee - there would have been WWIII on here. It was cheap.

Given KC's got about 8 stone on Tomkins, he probably would have.

Do your research, boys. Wakefield admitted they got that wrong, and if you read a bit more...

[url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/rlcolumnists/JAMES-STOSIC-Eye-injury-didn39t.5507785.jpArticle by JAMES STOSIC HIMSELF in the Yorkshire Evening Post[/url

Don't take it too hard, you tried your best to defend the thug.

Further light reading for you:

[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/article-1201038/Saints-sinner-Cunningham-gets-away-caution-Stosic-clash.htmlBroken Eye Socket[/url
[url=http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/news/content/view/full/78423Wakefield's Stosic to soldier on with fractured eye socket[/url
[url=http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/116251/Crusaders-bid-for-another-Bulls-runCrusaders-bid-for-another-Bulls-runCrusaders-bid-for-another-Bulls-runCrusaders-bid-for-another-Bulls-runCrusaders-bid-for-another-Bulls-runCrusaders-bid-for-another-Bulls-runCrusaders-bid-for-another-Bulls-runCrusaders-bid-for-another-Bulls-runCrusaders-bid-for-another-Bulls-runCrusaders-bid-for-another-Bulls-runCrusaders-bid-for-another-Bulls-runWakefield prop James Stosic is set to play in Sunday’s derby against Castleford with a fractured eye socket[/url
[url=http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/423382/WAKEFIELD-12-CASTLEFORD-20.htmlJames Stosic made the bench despite fracturing his eye socket.[/url
[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/article-1201183/Misery-Saints-broken-hand-rules-Wellens-month.htmlStosic suffered a broken eye socket after the incident[/url
[url=http://www.skysports.com/rugbyleague/match_preview/0,19936,11070_3086415,00.htmlJames Stosic should feature despite suffering a fractured eye socket[/url
[url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/wildcats/Wildcats-pay-the-big-derby.5495416.jpJames Stosic – playing despite a fractured eye socket – picked up[/url
[url=http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-league/Brave-Stosic-underlines-importance-of.5493450.jpone player is defying a fractured eye socket in order to appear.[/url

...But Stosic didn't suffer a fractured eye socket, oh no(!)

Some might say you were just well and truly pwned. But not me. I was simply right, and you were wrong, and that's life.

I see, so, the stick's still up there, rammed in good and tight.

Normal service is resumed. Saints fan can't argue with the overwhelming evidence, resorts to petty insults instead.

My kids went back to school last week, you pulling a sickie?

So a load of newspaper articles that clearly didn't pick up on the official club statement are more reliable than the official club statement which categorically states that a specialist had confirmed he HADN'T fractured his eye socket?

Do you know many other players who play the week after fracturing their eye socket? Got a link to Wakefield admitting they got it wrong in the original statement?

None of the links you provide have Wakefield saying he fractured his eye socket, my link categorically has them stating he didn't



Bottom line is Wakey cried wolf to get KC banned, then backtracked because there was nothing wrong with Stosic and made out like he's some sort of hero for soldiering on to save face.

You mean, Keiron Cunninghams kids?

Not quite.

You must admit, your stance on pretty much anything Saints and especially KC carries a somewhat negetive skew - one that far transcends any reasonable club bias. How is it termed on these boards - "Obsessed"?

Well, I can instantly think of one who carried on playing with a fractured eye socket and cheekbone...

Who's that (genuine question - no idea!) and did he play the week after?

Shaun Edwards at Wembley. Not sure about the week after though. I would think not.

The one and only Shaun Edwards, in the 1990 Cup Final v Warrington. It was the last match of the season in those days, so no.

Quote ="Geoff"The one and only Shaun Edwards, in the 1990 Cup Final v Warrington. It was the last match of the season in those days, so no.'" we did play a premiership match the week after but lost to Bradford. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=409 Bilko hasn't got the team for that one but I'd bet that Edwards didn't feature.

Quote ="Geoff"The one and only Shaun Edwards, in the 1990 Cup Final v Warrington. It was the last match of the season in those days, so no.'" we did play a premiership match the week after but lost to Bradford. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=409 Bilko hasn't got the team for that one but I'd bet that Edwards didn't feature.

Quote ="Pemps"we did play a premiership match the week after but lost to Bradford. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=409 Bilko hasn't got the team for that one but I'd bet that Edwards didn't feature.'" I'd forgotten about that, I think I missed it due to a week-long hangover...

Quote ="Pemps"we did play a premiership match the week after but lost to Bradford. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=409 Bilko hasn't got the team for that one but I'd bet that Edwards didn't feature.'" I'd forgotten about that, I think I missed it due to a week-long hangover...

You mean the ones that received the official press release rather than an unofficial website statement? BIG difference.



Try ringing them up. I did. They happily confirmed it was wrong.



How about the article BY JAMES STOSIC HIMSELF? Forget that one?



Bottom line is, a press release is much more reliable than a hurried statement on a website, and that is what the press would have written their reports from.

But then does it really matter whether Stosic was injured or not? Cunningham still punched him in the face like a thug. You can't argue that particular fact.

Nor have I tried to.

But if you think KC is at the front of the thug queue, you either haven't watched much rugby or are massively bitter. After playing in the front row for 16 years you can probably count his genuine indiscretions on one hand and I can't remember him ever being sent off (although I could be wrong there).

If lashing out with his ball carrying arm in a tackle is the worst you can come up with (for which he didn't receive a ban, given his exemplary disciplinary record) then that says a lot. Would you say Coley is a thug, given he's had a red card in 2010? What about Hock, with a ban for manhandling a ref? No? Thought not.

Cunningham has been a great RL player for Saints and never a thug. My only complaint I have ever had with him, was taking the Rugby League loyalty money and then turning his back on England / GB.

He could and should have played for Wigan.

You actually rang the club, to try and see if KC had injured someone? That is incredibly sad and really bordering on obsession, a fact that seems to be being picked up by more and more people. Chill out! Stop your One Man crusade against all things Saints. It might help you live longer.