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| Quote ="moto748"Has it come to this? Personally I'd rather have a younger player, even a not-quite-good-enough-for-the-NRL one like Jacob Miller.
It only seems a few years ago that the consensus was that Liam Finn wasn't SL quality; now we look at him with envy.'"
We need a balance and a partner to help bring the best out of Williams. Guys like Miller and Mellor (another name I seen somebody mention) are too similar imo.
A good partner for Williams needs to be a talker, needs to have a good long kicking game and needs to be able to organise the team (especially in the absence of Lockers).
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"We need a balance and a partner to help bring the best out of Williams. Guys like Miller and Mellor (another name I seen somebody mention) are too similar imo.
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A good partner for Williams needs to be a talker, needs to have a good long kicking game and needs to be able to organise the team (especially in the absence of Lockers).'"
Personally I think we need a team with more than one player with a kicking game. If Escare is fit I think he could be the main go to player with ST as an alternative option. Also Williams needs to develop a kicking gan
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| Sam Tomkins could be the best 7 in SL given time.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Sam Tomkins could be the best 7 in SL given time.'"
I'd love that to be case.
ST in the halves with some more grunt in the front row can only improve us.
If it doesn't work then hopefully we will be able to move ST at that point.
I want ST to succeed but not certain fitness or attitude are a given
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| Please no one mention Luke Walsh again.
The number of games I saw him play for Saints when he gave up the chase if someone got a couple of yards ahead, or got walked through like cardboard by strong attackers.
Surely we can get someone better than him?
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| Walsh wasn’t good enough for Saints. He sure as hell isnt good enough for us. Personally think it’s time to ship out Powell, Joel, Tautai, Isa, Flower. Our recruitment has been embarrassing compared to that of Cas and Hull.
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| Just read a report stating that Nobby is sniffing around Lockers. Wonder if true
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| Do Toronto actually have a Salary Cap,is my worry.
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| You might have bigger worries than that come Saturday evening though, personally, I hope you survive.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"You might have bigger worries than that come Saturday evening though, personally, I hope you survive.'"
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| Quote ="Father Ted"No confusion over Bousquet, he's an out and out prop.
If we signed him and he improved to the degree Escare did then we'd have one hell of a prop on our hands.
I'm with NK on this. We need a prop and Bousquet is the man to get!'"
With our recent track record with props I would think that he would be more likely to regress than improve.
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| Quote ="Yorkshire Warrior"????'"
quite obvious i thought
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| Quote ="Leythersteve"Just read a report stating that Nobby is sniffing around Lockers. Wonder if true'"
Just spoke to a guy who knows a few of the players at Wigan and he told me the interest from Toronto is real and SOL is thinking quite seriously of moving there. He didn't know but I assume Toronto have probably offered a 2 year deal whilst we are offering a 1 year deal. I wonder if this is why SOL didn't play at the weekend??
Ive also heard that TL regrets coming back to Wigan from the same source and from another guy who is usually pretty good re any rumours around the club.
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| Whatever decision SOL makes will give us a very good indication of what is going on at the club...If he stays for one more year that likely indicates the problems are likely to be addressed and he's happy to have a crack at SL, CC next year with a genuine view to winning. Or he jumps ship to Toronto for two years, probably telling us he would rather improve his quality of life and play championship level rugby for a year with a potential year in Super League (2019) than do another year like this one.
If TL regrets his move, he shouldn't have any problem moving on, which is good news because I cannot believe either SW or IL would want to keep him in any capacity.
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| Quote ="Yorkshire Warrior"????'"
I think he is alluding to the fact that come Saturday should Leigh lose, they will be playing Toronto next year
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Sam Tomkins could be the best 7 in SL given time.'"
I think this is our best chance in the short term at least. Escare at FB, Leuluai to hooker, McIlorum on the bench. I'd try to sell Powell if at all viable as Shorrocks and Ganson have more potential at 7 and 9 respectively, so use them as cover. People throwing some of these names about and saying we should move on X, Y and Z don't seem to comprehend that we have a salary cap and no big earners off contract.
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| It's on the other board that he's re-signed with us for 2 years.
For him to consider Toronto then I'd imagine they must have put a playing/coaching package together for him.
Toronto don't have a salary cap.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"It's on the other board that he's re-signed with us for 2 years.
For him to consider Toronto then I'd imagine they must have put a playing/coaching package together for him.
Toronto don't have a salary cap.'"
Toronto have the same salary cap as everyone else, Inc. Marquee players.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"
Ive also heard that TL regrets coming back to Wigan from the same source and from another guy who is usually pretty good re any rumours around the club.'"
I thought he came back because his missus was homesick?
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| Quote ="moto748"I thought he came back because his missus was homesick?'"
I believe he regrets joining Wigan but not returning to the uk. His last interview on Wigan to he sounds disinterested but to be fair he seems quite shy so maybe he was more awkward than not interested.
Did you rate him last year in the NRL at 7?
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"I believe he regrets joining Wigan but not returning to the uk. His last interview on Wigan to he sounds disinterested but to be fair he seems quite shy so maybe he was more awkward than not interested.
Did you rate him last year in the NRL at 7?'"
Perhaps he thought he could do better than join the team who at the time were Champions.
Yet on the form he's shown for us, he'd have been better signing for one of the relegation contenders.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Toronto have the same salary cap as everyone else, Inc. Marquee players.'"
maybe not as it will be in $, like catalans is in euros, the lack of value of the pound at the moment means Catalans have a larger cap
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| Quote ="Pieman"maybe not as it will be in $, like catalans is in euros, the lack of value of the pound at the moment means Catalans have a larger cap'"
I'm not sure whether they are paid in GBP or CAD to be honest.
Any benefit of foreign exchange rates will be limited to any currency fluctuations in that specific year though will it not? As the RFL will surely rebase their salary cap each year, and tie it to latest figures?
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"I'm not sure whether they are paid in GBP or CAD to be honest.
Any benefit of foreign exchange rates will be limited to any currency fluctuations in that specific year though will it not? As the RFL will surely rebase their salary cap each year, and tie it to latest figures?'"
Most businesses have a hedge rate. This is set at the beginning of the year so that they are less influenced by currency fluctuations for the year/season.
So for instance if the salary cap was £2 million and the hedge rate set at 1.10 Euro = £1 then Catalan would have
2.1 million Euros as a salary cap set at the beginning of the season / whatever the agreed date is.
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| See Leeds have stated their business early Nathanial Peteru 6'5" Prop from the Titans. Not a household name but a big lad with plenty of go forward.
Can't judge our recruitment till we take the field in 2018 however it will be frustrating should we not been looking to improve upfront like we desperately need to do and players like this have been picked up by our main rivals.
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