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| Quote ="Conroy"I'm hoping we've learnt lessons and use our squad players accordingly.'"
Agreed.
The good thing about the squad at the minute is we don't lose a great deal when we do rotate because the lads coming in have really stepped up to the plate.
I'd rather have a fresh squad going in to the play offs in 4th then a weary one in 1st. We can't afford to over rest players and let them lose match sharpness but a walkover at Wakey isn't going to keep any of them that sharp in fairness.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Agreed.
The good thing about the squad at the minute is we don't lose a great deal when we do rotate because the lads coming in have really stepped up to the plate.
I'd rather have a fresh squad going in to the play offs in 4th then a weary one in 1st. We can't afford to over rest players and let them lose match sharpness but a walkover at Wakey isn't going to keep any of them that sharp in fairness.'"
Why do you see a walkover at Wakey?
I sincerely hope our coach and players are not of that mind set.
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| Quote ="proper-shaped-balls"Why do you see a walkover at Wakey?
I sincerely hope our coach and players are not of that mind set.'"
I agree, potential banana skin this one. I cant see us going the rest of the season unbeaten and Wakefield could put a big performance in after losing a few on the bounce. It might be unlikely i understand that, but you never know do you
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| Quote ="proper-shaped-balls"Why do you see a walkover at Wakey?
I sincerely hope our coach and players are not of that mind set.'"
It would be with a full team I've no doubt and the reason is because the players don't have a mindset like that. They can't afford to but I can.
Wakey also stank last week.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"We could rest more besides and we'd still deserve a rollicking if we lost the game.
We've done the hard work now with a top 4 spot all but confirmed so we now need to plan ahead for the big games carefully by managing certain players workloads.'"
I am sure the same was said before we lost to Widnes away last season and also whether we have a top four spot or not people don't pay good money to watch reserve sides.
That is the paradox of our competition structure. We always get this notion of resting players but people would soon moan if we lost league matches as a result.
So far this season Wane hasn't repeated the Widnes mistake and has spelled players sensibly not leaving half the first team out. I don't see any reason why he needs to start doing that now.
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| Quote ="DaveO"I am sure the same was said before we lost to Widnes away last season and also whether we have a top four spot or not people don't pay good money to watch reserve sides.
That is the paradox of our competition structure. We always get this notion of resting players but people would soon moan if we lost league matches as a result.
So far this season Wane hasn't repeated the Widnes mistake and has spelled players sensibly not leaving half the first team out. I don't see any reason why he needs to start doing that now.'"
Yet you'll be the first to criticise him and his team selections should we limp out the playoffs.
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| Crosby, Spencer and Hughes all playing for Leigh today according to Bilko on twitter.
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| Quote ="Conroy"Yet you'll be the first to criticise him and his team selections should we limp out the playoffs.'"
Boooooooooommmmmmmm!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Boooooooooommmmmmmm!'"
Don't forget the shirts.
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| Quote ="DaveO"I am sure the same was said before we lost to Widnes away last season and also whether we have a top four spot or not people don't pay good money to watch reserve sides.
That is the paradox of our competition structure. We always get this notion of resting players but=#FF0000 SOME people would soon moan if we lost league matches as a result.
So far this season Wane hasn't repeated the Widnes mistake and has spelled players sensibly not leaving half the first team out. I don't see any reason why he needs to start doing that now.'"
Edited for accuracy..
If we played lots of youngsters again Wakefield and lost, i for one would not be complaining, I like to see young players blooded. The nature of the tournament is another issue.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Crosby, Spencer and Hughes all playing for Leigh today according to Bilko on twitter.'"
Leigh are loosing 22-8 and only 5 minutes to go.
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| Quote ="DaveO"I am sure the same was said before we lost to Widnes away last season and also whether we have a top four spot or not people don't pay good money to watch reserve sides.
That is the paradox of our competition structure. We always get this notion of resting players but people would soon moan if we lost league matches as a result.
So far this season Wane hasn't repeated the Widnes mistake and has spelled players sensibly not leaving half the first team out. I don't see any reason why he needs to start doing that now.'"
I didn't moan after Widnes and I wouldn't moan after a defeat tomorrow. I'd moan if a player whos in need of a rest picked up an injury though or if we're out on our feet come play off time.
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| Quote ="Ashton Bears"Leigh are loosing 22-8 and only 5 minutes to go.'"
All 3 of your boys had decent games today , we were missing our usual 6 and 7 today , and it showed , especially in the second half .
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"All 3 of your boys had decent games today , we were missing our usual 6 and 7 today , and it showed , especially in the second half .'"
Spencer was outstanding, Hughes & Crosby very average IMO Charlie. Not a patch on Scott Taylor's efforts past couple weeks.
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| Quote ="The Publican"Spencer was outstanding, Hughes & Crosby very average IMO Charlie. Not a patch on Scott Taylor's efforts past couple weeks.'"
I suppose that is the issue with DR in all honesty. Guys like Hughes and Crosby have been playing well in massive games for Wigan this year and with all due respect, I just don't see the motivation being too high. To them it's pretty much an excerise of keeping fit.
Then we move on to guys like Spencer, Lloyd, Burke and even Taylor and they're a perfect fit for you and us under this system. They're making their way at Wigan still and have plenty to prove. They need to make an impression at Leigh to try and get some games back here. They are also unlikely to play more then the odd game for Wigan this year so will be available most weeks to Leigh which builds up that loyalty to your cause.
This DR system only works with a certain type of player IMO.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I suppose that is the issue with DR in all honesty. Guys like Hughes and Crosby have been playing well in massive games for Wigan this year and with all due respect, I just don't see the motivation being too high. To them it's pretty much an excerise of keeping fit.
Then we move on to guys like Spencer, Lloyd, Burke and even Taylor and they're a perfect fit for you and us under this system. They're making their way at Wigan still and have plenty to prove. They need to make an impression at Leigh to try and get some games back here. They are also unlikely to play more then the odd game for Wigan this year so will be available most weeks to Leigh which builds up that loyalty to your cause.
This DR system only works with a certain type of player IMO.'"
Pretty much the thoughts that went through my mind...
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| Quote ="Conroy"Yet you'll be the first to criticise him and his team selections should we limp out the playoffs.'"
Unbelievable. I post a comment saying Wane has done something right and you post that?
It's not even logical to say it. If I think he has got the balance right it follows I don't think there is anything to be gained from doing otherwise.
He has rotated players this season where perhaps a coach like Noble who tends to play his first team all the time may not have. Wane has been able to do this , has done so, but has resisted the temptation to do as he did at Widnes. This is all good IMO
The squad rotation so far has been fine and I can't recall wholesale changes with an A team out when 1st team players were fit and I also don't think we gain anything by doing so.
Resting players like Mick Mac when Lockers is out just puts more pressure on the other senior players to lead the team. If we are 30 points up at half time he can take MM off as he has also done in the past.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Edited for accuracy..
If we played lots of youngsters again Wakefield and lost, i for one would not be complaining,'"
I don't believe you.
Quote I like to see young players blooded =#FF8000IF WE WIN. The nature of the tournament is another issue.'"
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I don't know if you were at Widnes last season but I bet you didn't enjoy the experience at the time if you were. It's all right reflecting on the game afterwards and voicing opinions on a forum about whether it was/or will be good experience or not regardless of the result but I simply don't believe even you watch games reflecting on the wider issues at the time. I am sure you will go to games to watch Wigan hopefully win.
Also the nature of the tournament is certainly not another issue because it directly leads to people calling for players to be rested in league games.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I suppose that is the issue with DR in all honesty. Guys like Hughes and Crosby have been playing well in massive games for Wigan this year and with all due respect, I just don't see the motivation being too high. To them it's pretty much an excerise of keeping fit.
Then we move on to guys like Spencer, Lloyd, Burke and even Taylor and they're a perfect fit for you and us under this system. They're making their way at Wigan still and have plenty to prove. They need to make an impression at Leigh to try and get some games back here. They are also unlikely to play more then the odd game for Wigan this year so will be available most weeks to Leigh which builds up that loyalty to your cause.
This DR system only works with a certain type of player IMO.'"
This is very much my thoughts also, spencer last week and now Lloyd today don't gain anything from being 18th/19th man in your squad and not getting to play a game at all over the weekend. I'm sure they would rather be playing for Leigh than not at all and look like they want to be with us whereas Esp Hughes yesterday didn't look interested in being with us ( not that I blame him )
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| Wakefield are without Tim Smith, Paul Sykes, Paul Aiton and Ali Lautiti. Bookies offering Wigan -22 which for me is printing money. Really can't see Wakefield scoring anymore than a couple of tries and Wigan in the mood they are in will steamroll them. Expecting to see Tomkins grab 4/5 tries too, 1/3 to score anytime too is not bad!
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| Quote ="DaveO"I don't believe you.
Edit for accuracy.
I don't know if you were at Widnes last season but I bet you didn't enjoy the experience at the time if you were. It's all right reflecting on the game afterwards and voicing opinions on a forum about whether it was/or will be good experience or not regardless of the result but I simply don't believe even you watch games reflecting on the wider issues at the time. I am sure you will go to games to watch Wigan hopefully win.
Also the nature of the tournament is certainly not another issue because it directly leads to people calling for players to be rested in league games.'"
Thank you for telling me what i think...
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| Quote ="Coventry Bears"Wakefield are without Tim Smith, Paul Sykes, Paul Aiton and Ali Lautiti. Bookies offering Wigan -22 which for me is printing money. Really can't see Wakefield scoring anymore than a couple of tries and Wigan in the mood they are in will steamroll them. Expecting to see Tomkins grab 4/5 tries too, 1/3 to score anytime too is not bad!'"
Disrespectful arrogance.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Disrespectful arrogance.'"
Not at all, after Wakefields performance against Cas last week, I think -22 was actually being kind. Credit to Wakefield this afternoon though, if they put that same effort in all season, they should go well. But they won't, as they only upped their game because it was Wigan.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"Not at all, after Wakefields performance against Cas last week, I think -22 was actually being kind. Credit to Wakefield this afternoon though, if they put that same effort in all season, they should go well. But they won't, as they only upped their game because it was Wigan.'"
Nonsense. To say he expects Tomkins to score 5 and Wigan will steamroll them is arrogant.
You're talking as though it is unheard of for a team to play badly one week and then up their game the next.
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