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Not when he sees his bank balance he wont !

This is the news i have been regretting the most.

Personally i love to see a big shoulder charge and this is another example of our rough and tough sport being softened.

How long will we be able to present ourselves as a gladiatorial spectacle between ferocious men, when you cant have a punch up and you cant banjo someone with a well timed shoulder to the chest.

I bet the players never voted in favour of this.

I meant punish as in penalty/sin bin/sending off depending on the severity/intention. Not banning anything.

Shoulder charges are executed (

) all the time by the ball carrier.

Be tick and pass soon

To be clear, are you suggesting no tackles are outlawed unless it is intended to injure or someone is injured? So the shoulder charge, spear tackle, chicken wing, Lima tackle into the knees, are all acceptable unless there is injury?

Did I say 'Not banning anything'. It appears I did, sorry.

I think you know what I meant

Spear tackle, chicken wing, Lima tackle into the knees, are not acceptable. No need to ban the shoulder charge UNLESS it's illegal. ie attack to the head etc.

All I'm saying, again, is shoulder charges have been going on for ever by the ball carrier and if he/she attacks the defender's head with the shoulder, arm, elbow, there's a penalty.

I didn't which is why I asked.



On that basis I agree.

Physical contact is what the sports all about!

This move is designed to look after the players but I'm not sure even they will back the move.

The fans certainly won't!!

looks like the oz coaches aren't happy about it ([urlhttp://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/arl-commission-bans-shoulder-charge-from-rugby-league/story-fndujljl-1226520747167[/url).

i can see penalty counts through the roof in the first few games if this is ratified (still some small hope it'll get reversed next month by the looks of it - but i'm not holding my breath)

It's bloody ridiculous. It's a great part of the game, just looking on YouTube, how many videos of "big hits" are full of massive shoulder hits.

Sod it, we may as well go watch some penalty shoot outs - sorry, rugby union!

Probably good idea. I don't mind shoulder charges per se but more often than not they are targeted at the head and why they are hardly ever penalised as a high tackle is a mystery to me. Probably more dangerous than a swinging arm.

When it comes off it looks spectacular, however i have seen it creeping into junior rugby more and more and i see lads using it [and more often than not missing when they should be putting their shoulder into a tackle..i think it should be allowed but definately shouldn't be encouraged in the junior game

so we can expect the video ref at all our games too then yes ????

I would have kept it but any contact to th head automatic sin bin and that would go for tackles where contact with the head is made.

Rulings like this should be decided by a player's committee and no-one else.

Jesus Crist! Don't get me started on this one. The game is quickly decending into farce. Total joke.

I wonder whats going to happen to all those charge downs with the shoulder. That seems to be the norm nowadays when challenging the kicker on the last.

I honestly can't see the issue. It's not the shoulder [iper se[/i it's where it goes. Surely?

I agree, but I think there have been a couple, & only a couple I can recollect, that were borderline & ended up as a sending off. So maybe to avoid that complication they are taking away the issue. In reality the high impact shoulder charges are pretty rare. By far the most common is the big front on chest impact. The suggestion that the charge down of the kicker is regularly a shoulder charge I just don't recognise.

But in that case they need to ban tackling too as some of those can end up 'borderline'. Actually so are many 'forward passes' so let's uncomplicate that rule too and do away with passing. As for scoring; look what happened to Amos Roberts when he went in for a try. I reckon those need banning too...unless we just ban the posts to end any chance of collisions with them. As for the pitch!

Players could turn an ankle on some of those divots! I think the best solution all round would be for all of us to play each game in our head and decide the result by discussion and debate. No worries about players gettin injured then. I'll send a memo to the RFL...

I agree we mustn’t get this one out of proportion, I don’t think this is a deal breaker as far as our game is concerned. You don’t see it in every match, and its loss is not a sign of a great decline to sanitized RL IMO. There are much greater problems in the game that are not being addressed, things that may bring the game to its knees, but not this. Not worth getting all hot and bothered about this one.

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Here is the alternative view on the shoulder charge

Great stuff!

Certainly is mate, the bit about the porn film dropped me to the floor

Funny but all true