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| Quote ="chip"With the departure`s of eastmond and the dummy spitter from saints two local boys who will they both be replaced by?Iknow eastmond replacement is already done in lance hohio and i bet a pound to a penny graham`s will be replaced with an aussie.They used to slate wigan for getting rid of local lads and getting over paid aussies in instead and they are doing the exact same thing now oh how the times have changed'"
What a pile of drivel. Saints haven't got rid of Graham he has left to further his career in the NRL. Wigan got rid of their local youngsters as they were deemed not good enough and then got (IMO) inferior players.
Saints are in the market for, maybe, two props and we are apparently in for Chris Hill from Leigh, a good upcoming BRITISH prop.
I think you need to think more carefully before posting because the two instances you have stated cannot be compared.
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| Quote ="chip"With the departure`s of eastmond and the dummy spitter from saints two local boys who will they both be replaced by?Iknow eastmond replacement is already done in lance hohio and i bet a pound to a penny graham`s will be replaced with an aussie.They used to slate wigan for getting rid of local lads and getting over paid aussies in instead and they are doing the exact same thing now oh how the times have changed'"
What an utterly ridiculous post.
Saints wanted to keep both Eastmond and Graham and they've decided to go elsewhere,so it's hardly 'getting rid' of them, dumbo.
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| Quote ="mistermoo"What a pile of drivel. Saints haven't got rid of Graham he has left to further his career in the NRL. Wigan got rid of their local youngsters as they were deemed not good enough and then got (IMO) inferior players.
Saints are in the market for, maybe, two props and we are apparently in for Chris Hill from Leigh, a good upcoming BRITISH prop.
I think you need to think more carefully before posting because the two instances you have stated cannot be compared.'"
Chris Hill.
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Shenton.
You want to be careful, could get the reputation as a "buying" club like Wire.
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| Quote ="RuddyScoosers"What an utterly ridiculous post.
Saints wanted to keep both Eastmond and Graham and they've decided to go elsewhere,so it's hardly 'getting rid' of them, dumbo.'"
It didn't stop that idiot Saddened (and others on the VT), from sticking the spear into Wigan when we lost Ashton & Thornley.
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| Quote ="mistermoo"What a pile of drivel. Saints haven't got rid of Graham he has left to further his career in the NRL. Wigan got rid of their local youngsters as they were deemed not good enough and then got (IMO) inferior players.
Saints are in the market for, maybe, two props and we are apparently in for Chris Hill from Leigh, a good upcoming BRITISH prop.
I think you need to think more carefully before posting because the two instances you have stated cannot be compared.'"
Which Wigan youngsters that they got rid of would get into Wigans team?
And in place of whom?
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| Please tell me that this doesn't mean brown and Robinson etc? We got rod because of cap constraints everyone knows that surely? You can only keep so many of your youngsters. If you have two 18 year olds and neither are ready for first team then you need someone else to come in so you get an Aussie short term to help development of those 18 year olds however when you're producing the punt wigan produce then you simply cannot keep them all and some must go and because you need that Aussie then he's on more therefore one of those two 18 year olds usually can't be afforded. Take ainscough as an example. He went because there was simply no room as we are producing that many young backs etc like charnley and marsh that so
something has got to give. We couldn't give ainscough the money he wanted so he had to go to Bradford or not play.
This is what happens when you produce so much young talent. People go on though as if we have signed some Aussie to let Sam go!
Also saints haven't got rid they've been poached however it would be mildly hypocritical if they did go on to replace them with Aussies instead.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Which Wigan youngsters that they got rid of would get into Wigans team?
And in place of whom?'"
tbh I see the argument on letting certain players go to retain others - all cap issues. Saints let Emmitt go last year and I think thats a mistake however it's a balancing act and you dont always know how some players will turn out (Emmitt improved vastly as the season went on but I suspect we'd already told him he was leaving).... but as you asked I'd say Robinson and Brown are better that you have at the moment and for a period of time (not now of course) Stephen Wild
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| I think the theme started during that 3 year patch were you were down at the botttom, saying you'd spent money on foreigners like Vialiki etc who did you no good at all, when players like Wild etc were starting to flourish elsewhere.
Talking of foreigners, do you think you're missing Riddell this year? When I saw you play last year, I always thought he was your main brain on the pitch.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"tbh I see the argument on letting certain players go to retain others - all cap issues. Saints let Emmitt go last year and I think thats a mistake however it's a balancing act and you dont always know how some players will turn out (Emmitt improved vastly as the season went on but I suspect we'd already told him he was leaving).... but as you asked I'd say =#800000Robinson and Brown are better that you have at the moment and for a period of time (not now of course) Stephen Wild'"
To be fair, he left cause he went squealing to the press and let the club and his team-mates down.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"tbh I see the argument on letting certain players go to retain others - all cap issues. Saints let Emmitt go last year and I think thats a mistake however it's a balancing act and you dont always know how some players will turn out (Emmitt improved vastly as the season went on but I suspect we'd already told him he was leaving).... but as you asked I'd say =#FF0000Robinson and Brown are better that you have at the moment and for a period of time (not now of course) Stephen Wild'"
Don't agree with that to be honest, better than a combination of Deacon/Finch/Leuluai?
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| Quote ="Dave26"Don't agree with that to be honest, better than a combination of Deacon/Finch/Leuluai?'"
Squeeling aside for a moment I'd take Robinson,Brown & Leuluai as a trio ..
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"
Talking of foreigners, do you think you're missing Riddell this year? When I saw you play last year, I always thought he was your main brain on the pitch.'"
Without a doubt, 99% of us are aware of this, just the odd lame brain who'd rather slay a particular individual for having a below par game.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"tbh I see the argument on letting certain players go to retain others - all cap issues. Saints let Emmitt go last year and I think thats a mistake however it's a balancing act and you dont always know how some players will turn out (Emmitt improved vastly as the season went on but I suspect we'd already told him he was leaving).... but as you asked I'd say Robinson and Brown are better that you have at the moment and for a period of time (not now of course) Stephen Wild'"
dont make me laugh,neither of them had that attitude and attributes to make it at wigan,
and i know one of them personally,
and i think we have much better options than those two.
like uncle mo said on sl super men, the tallent dried up in the early 2000's and only just got going again
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| Quote ="MattyB"Chris Hill.
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No your still the champs at that fella......
just popped along to the Stefan Ratchford thread my my my.....
lets buy Stefan Ratchford
No Lets aim Higher we need to be buying better than that
Lets buy Tom Briscoe
Lets Buy Rangi Chase
Lets buy a Top Class NRL replacement for George Carmont
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"No your still the champs at that fella......
just popped along to the Stefan Ratchford thread my my my.....
lets buy Stefan Ratchford
No Lets aim Higher we need to be buying better than that
Lets buy Tom Briscoe
Lets Buy Rangi Chase
Lets buy a Top Class NRL replacement for George Carmont'"
Wire have been more of a buying club in the last few years than Wigan.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"No your still the champs at that fella......
just popped along to the Stefan Ratchford thread my my my.....
lets buy Stefan Ratchford
No Lets aim Higher we need to be buying better than that
Lets buy Tom Briscoe
Lets Buy Rangi Chase
Lets buy a Top Class NRL replacement for George Carmont'"
Yes but we dont go around crying to other fans because they have/are going to buy players. People are merely pointing out the fact that Saints are doing exactly what they criticised us for in the past
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"People are merely pointing out the fact that Saints are doing exactly what they criticised us for in the past
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By offering James Graham the best deal the club has ever made to any player at the club? I don't remember us criticising you for that?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"By offering James Graham the best deal the club has ever made to any player at the club? I don't remember us criticising you for that?'"
Now you are just acting thick on purpose
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Now you are just acting thick on purpose
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Are you sure it's on purpose?
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Now you are just acting thick on purpose
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The word you meant to write is 'obtuse'.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"No your still the champs at that fella......
just popped along to the Stefan Ratchford thread my my my.....
lets buy Stefan Ratchford
No Lets aim Higher we need to be buying better than that
Lets buy Tom Briscoe
Lets Buy Rangi Chase
Lets buy a Top Class NRL replacement for George Carmont'"
this is a joke isnt it?
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"No your still the champs at that fella......
just popped along to the Stefan Ratchford thread my my my.....
lets buy Stefan Ratchford
No Lets aim Higher we need to be buying better than that
Lets buy Tom Briscoe
Lets Buy Rangi Chase
Lets buy a Top Class NRL replacement for George Carmont'"
Lol from a Wire fan?!
Do you realise how many of your 1-17 are bought in?! I guarantee it is more than Wigan have.
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| I can think of 3 in the first 17 players who have been brought through the youth system....wood, harrison and riley. Poor.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"No your still the champs at that fella......
just popped along to the Stefan Ratchford thread my my my.....
lets buy Stefan Ratchford
No Lets aim Higher we need to be buying better than that
Lets buy Tom Briscoe
Lets Buy Rangi Chase
Lets buy a Top Class NRL replacement for George Carmont'"
So your evidence of Wigan being a buying club is to use what fans are speculating about who they would want rather than what the club has actually done?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"By offering James Graham the best deal the club has ever made to any player at the club? I don't remember us criticising you for that?'"
No but we got Criticised by replacing english players with aussies/new zealanders! In fact last season we got stick for replacing 5 aussies with 3 aussies and bringing through 2 english lads.
You have replaced Biiscuit with Lance Hohaia and your fans are speculating on which NRL player can replace Graham
I think thats what the arguement is!
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