Joel's too old for young player, they have to be under 21 at the start of 2010. I reckon (winners name first):

Man of steel: Richards/Roberts/Orford
Young player: Eastmond/Lomax/T.Briscoe
Rookie: Lomax/Whitehead/Foster
Coach: Maguire/Agar/McManara

I think it's U23 at the start of the season, in which case Joel qualifies.

I can't think of another player who has been as consistent as Richards this year, still a long way to go mind.

I'm only going off Sam Tomkins' [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Tomkinswiki[/url to be fair, hardly the most reliable source.

I can't believe Pat has never managed to get into the Super League Dream Team yet. Shocking oversight

And that is why it is worth verry little in my opinion. Year on year there are some shocking selections in it.

I've said that year on year since his first iffy season. He's been a fantastic player for us and he's without question the best wingman in this league and also one of the best fullbacks.

A super player.

Pat is without doubt one of the best players in the world and I am certain in years to come he will become legendary at the club. Skillful, calm under pressure, pacey and intelligent (and a genuine nice guy to boot). There is not one team in this league (and several NRL teams) that would not want him in their team, end of!

And just to think that like Roberts, Riddell and Pryce many on here wanted rid of him in his first sesosn.

I remember one poster who wrote "I'll carry his bags to the airport" (or was it Wakefield)

Aren't we happy that deal to take him along with Vaealiki to Wakey didn't go through.

With him and now famous, it shows that sometimes players need time to settle in.

To be fair we bought one of the best wingers in the world and played him at centre for a full season. After a couple of months, his confidence was shot and he did look a catastrophe of a signing. Thankfully when played in his rightful position he quickly found his NRL form, this also coincided with being handed the goal kicking duties.

richards is superman!

For Gawd's sake change the bleedin record, will you?

Quote ="Nogga"To be fair we bought one of the best wingers in the world and played him at centre for a full season. After a couple of months, his confidence was shot and he did look a catastrophe of a signing. Thankfully when played in his rightful position he quickly found his NRL form, this also coincided with being handed the goal kicking duties.'" He actually played more games on the wing that year. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=729

Quote ="Nogga"To be fair we bought one of the best wingers in the world and played him at centre for a full season. After a couple of months, his confidence was shot and he did look a catastrophe of a signing. Thankfully when played in his rightful position he quickly found his NRL form, this also coincided with being handed the goal kicking duties.'" He actually played more games on the wing that year. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=729

Quote ="Pemps"He actually played more games on the wing that year. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=729'" Please note that the dispelling of myths is frowned upon on this forum. Kindly stick the the established procedures such as misquoting, missuse of statistics, etc that have served us so well in the past.

Quote ="Pemps"He actually played more games on the wing that year. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=729'" Please note that the dispelling of myths is frowned upon on this forum. Kindly stick the the established procedures such as misquoting, missuse of statistics, etc that have served us so well in the past.

Sincere apologies for overstepping the mark



To be fair to NickyKiss though, he was dreadful that year and that may be partly due to him playing centre for the first half of the year along with playing in an incredibly poor team that was incredibly low on confidence.

TBH, considering how poor the team around him was, combined with him playing out of position, he didn't have a bad strike rate in either position really.

These are his stats:
Pos---Games-----Tries------Strike-Rate
1-------1----------0----------0.0
2-------7----------5----------0.71
3-------9----------4----------0.44
4-------0----------0----------N/A
5-------7----------4----------0.57

Combined totals
Wing----14-------9----------0.64
Centre---9-------4----------0.44
Total----23------13---------0.56

A better than 50% strike rate is not bad at all for a guy "low on confidence" and "having a stinker", due to to "playing out of position".

Reading those stats, I don't believe that he was anywhere near as bad as people (myself included, I'll admit) seem to think he was.

I find that most interesting. Thanks for putting it up. There's still plenty of anti- Millward ammo out there but this puts 1 myth to bed nicely IMO.

Best winger at the club, and starting to reach Dallas esk levels of respect and status.

Its players like Paddy and Lockers who really deserve to win something with Wigan. They've been through all the sh*t with us fans and have now come through the other side. Lets hope we see these lads lifting a major trophy in the cherry and white sooner rather than later. You could see how much the game at Leeds meant to Paddy, he was close to tears at the end, he's got true passion for our club!!

No problem JJ.

I only collated the figures.

All the thanks go to Bilko for providing the data in the first place.

I normally prefer not to compare players. Look what happened to comparing Lockers to Faz, but in this case it's so true. He will certainly be one of Wigans overseas legends. IMO he is a much better player than Dallas already mainly due to his physical attributes.

Nevermind best winger at the club though, he is the best in the league and one of the best in the world, I can't think of a winger I would rather have really.

I hope he stays with us untill the end of his career!

BAN HIM!!!!!!!

I have been speaking to a few fans of other clubs who seem to think Pat will be heading to the AFL with Folau at the end of this season. Has anybody else heard anything regarding this???

I sincerely hope not.