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| Quote ="Vicki_w"Just got ours, two rings and I was through without any problems whatsoever.
Looks like the imminent crisis that everyone seems to expect to come from the club has once again failed to materialise...
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I said when they named the venue that everybody who 'really' wants to go will be able to get them and thats how it looks.
I'd imagine we'll sell our allocation but it may take a little while imo.
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| im sure i said that you can't compare most stats purely based on positions.
Errors you can, mis-tackles you can
Which is what the main crux of the argument is [mathers defence
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"im sure i said that you can't compare most stats purely based on positions.
Errors you can, mis-tackles you can
Which is what the main crux of the argument is [mathers defence'"
So basically you can compare the stats that fall in Mathers favour but not the ones that fall in Gleesons
You couldn't make it up!
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Quote ="NickyKiss"So basically you can compare the stats that fall in Mathers favour but not the ones that fall in Gleesons
You couldn't make it up!'"
ok same position check this and tell me who has the better centre
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
comparing a winger to a prop or a fullback to a centre ??
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Quote ="NickyKiss"So basically you can compare the stats that fall in Mathers favour but not the ones that fall in Gleesons
You couldn't make it up!'"
ok same position check this and tell me who has the better centre
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
comparing a winger to a prop or a fullback to a centre ??
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It's obviously Gleeson as Bridge has made more Errors/Missed tackles, you can't have the argument both ways!
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It's obviously Gleeson as Bridge has made more Errors/Missed tackles, you can't have the argument both ways!
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| Gleesons hasn't been updated since he left Wire though
A tad unfair if you don't mind me saying.
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Lets see who gets an England call up by your coach then?
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Lets see who gets an England call up by your coach then?
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erm, saying that Bridge has played nearly double what Gleeson has there- Gleesons made more carries and offloads. All the other statistics, Gleeson has more than half of what Bridge has despite playing half the amount of games, i'd say Wigan have the better Not very good at this are you?
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erm, saying that Bridge has played nearly double what Gleeson has there- Gleesons made more carries and offloads. All the other statistics, Gleeson has more than half of what Bridge has despite playing half the amount of games, i'd say Wigan have the better Not very good at this are you?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"It's obviously Gleeson as Bridge has made more Errors/Missed tackles, you can't have the argument both ways!
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the original argument was Mathers defence even though it was better than Gleesons
And everyones comebacks were stats that ANY centre should have better than a fullback
anyway like BP says this thread is about tickets so open a new thread or drop it
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"the original argument was Mathers defence even though it was better than Gleesons'"
Really?
I'll post the missed tackle % for you again:
Mathers 18%
Gleeson 7%
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Really?
I'll post the missed tackle % for you again:
Mathers 18%
Gleeson 7%'"
compare mathers with hicks (last seasons fullback at wire)
Mathers was great in defence
trouble with you lot is you have had Hampson and Radlinski arguably 2 of the best 2 FB's in the game and you judge him by those standards.
He never had a chance with your over critical lot.
and percentages don't always equate to tries Gleeson made more tackles (yes) also made more mistakes which might have been more tries against so your lovely little equation is meaningless
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"compare mathers with hicks (last seasons fullback at wire)
Mathers was great in defence
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End this now..............it's getting silly
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"trouble with you lot is you have had Hampson and Radlinski arguably 2 of the best 2 FB's in the game and you judge him by those standards.
He never had a chance with your over critical lot.
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Mathers was awful. Just awful. Nothing to do with having high standards.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Mathers was great in defence'"
not for wigan he wasn't
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| Mathers...great...defence....
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"compare mathers with hicks (last seasons fullback at wire)
Mathers was great in defence
trouble with you lot is you have had Hampson and Radlinski arguably 2 of the best 2 FB's in the game and you judge him by those standards.
He never had a chance with your over critical lot.
and percentages don't always equate to tries Gleeson made more tackles (yes) also made more mistakes which might have been more tries against so your lovely little equation is meaningless'"
SO based on comparing Mathers with Gleeson and who got the best deal you now want me to now compare Mathers with Hicks?
One of the points of percentages are they let you compare proportionality of two things that are not necessarily exactly the same. Just because Gleeson make loads more tackles doesn't mean you can't compare what proportion of tackles he misses. By your bizarre logic we could turn it around and say Gleeson saved hundreds of tries more than Mathers because he made that many more tackles.
Which ever way you put it Mathers missed one tackle in every 5 or 6 he made. Glesson missed one tackle for every 14 he made.
Any rational person can see who has the best defence on that statistic.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"SO based on comparing Mathers with Gleeson and who got the best deal you now want me to now compare Mathers with Hicks?
One of the points of percentages are they let you compare proportionality of two things that are not necessarily exactly the same. Just because Gleeson make loads more tackles doesn't mean you can't compare what proportion of tackle they miss. By your bizarre logic we could turn it around and say Gleeson saved hundreds of tries more than Mathers because he made that many more tackles.
Which ever way you put it Mathers missed one tackle in every 5 or 6 he made. Glesson missed one tackle for every 14 he made.
Any rational person can see who has the best defence on that statistic.'"
But Mathers now plays for Warrington so ner ner nah ner ner
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| do you guys agree with stadium choice ?
Small full stadium great crowd good for the camera
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small minded RFL, poor choice, little ambition
Look at the interest already because people think that if they don't get them now then they won't get one at all.
a big stadium probably wouldn't have generated all this panic buying.
Personally i think a bigger stadium would have been better
local derby, you guys want revenge for last month, semi final. I think it would have drummed up a bit more interest and got a crowd of 20k
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"do you guys agree with stadium choice ?
Small full stadium great crowd good for the camera
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small minded RFL, poor choice, little ambition
Look at the interest already because people think that if they don't get them now then they won't get one at all.
a big stadium probably wouldn't have generated all this panic buying.
Personally i think a bigger stadium would have been better
local derby, you guys want revenge for last month, semi final. I think it would have drummed up a bit more interest and got a crowd of 20k'"
Try talking sense to the RFL, it'll be like talking foreign
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"do you guys agree with stadium choice ?
Small full stadium great crowd good for the camera
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small minded RFL, poor choice, little ambition
Look at the interest already because people think that if they don't get them now then they won't get one at all.
a big stadium probably wouldn't have generated all this panic buying.
Personally i think a bigger stadium would have been better
local derby, you guys want revenge for last month, semi final. I think it would have drummed up a bit more interest and got a crowd of 20k'"
subtle conversation change
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"subtle conversation change
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open a new thread and i'll quite happily continue
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"His tackle on Matt King was a beauty to be fair
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its one of only four or five tackles he made!
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| =redOFF TOPIC, The End.
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