As well as Tim smith!

Both to make way

Why should we get rid of Andy Coley for Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook?

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Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook played 3 games

Metres 415

Andy Coley played 4 games

Metres 275


Get him signed!

and of course he'd jump at the chance to leave the small town for the bright lights of wigan

your cod ing i think

He was their stand-out player against Samoa in the WC qualifiers and had a very good game.

if wigan have serious aspirations about truly been title contenders Mcgoldrick imho is not the way to go for you guys.

I've only chimed into this thread late, so apologies if this has already been said, but I wish we would stop talking about signing players like McGoldrick and Dobson. We have our next 'big name' halfback already playing, and if he's a little bit raw, the only way he'll overcome that is by getting reasonably regular first-team action.

For Wigan to kick on to the next stage, we need to stop considering average overseas players. Okay, maybe that's a little harsh on McGoldrick and Dobson, but when this overseas quota finally comes down to a sensible number, only average teams will be including overseasers of that calibre on their books. Yes, McGoldrick and Dobson will play well and occasonally give really superb performances, but the reality is that our overseas slots should only go to top quality Aussies, not willing lads who can't get clubs in the NRL.

I feel that, signing either of these players at the moment would be a big step backwards. Sam wasn't brilliant last Friday, but he wasn't totally out of his depth either. I say keep him in the first team and let's see what happens.

I never suggested replacing Sam with McGouldrick. But I do think he is a very under rated player who could do a very good job for us.

He can play at 1, 3, 4, 6 or 13.

I think he a better fullback or centre than we have at present.

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Very good player. But i bet hes using ust to get more out of Leeds.

Same old story.

If we signed RM (as a FB), that would push Pat back onto the wing and then Ainscough out the team.

If we signed him to be 13, Lockers would be out.

...signed him as a 3/4 Carmont/Bailey are out

...signed him as a 6, Sam is out.

All players he would push out who IMO don't deserve to lose thier place.

Can't we get him on some sort of foreign exchange program? Send one of our reserves down to get some first team experience and have LMS come up here to learn Wiganese?

Signing McGoldrick is the same as when we signed Dennis Moran, big fish in a small pond. We need to be looking to sign Lockyer. We should have signed Dobson instead of Smith.

Next season
6- Lockyer
7- Tomkins/Leuluai
9- Riddell/Leuluai

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Lockyer about to sign a new deal at Brisbane, which will keep him there until he retires?

Top word that, I must get it into a conversation in the next couple of days!

Would rather see McGoldrick than him but I think Karl Pryce deserves his chance there before we go signing ANOTHER (IMO) average Aussie

That would be fantastic for a year or 2 IMO

Would generate more money from tickets and merchandise etc

Lockyer wouldn't only give us his playing ability but his leadership and experience qualities

Not to mention, That would be a priceless experience for Sam

Although Lockyer would be a quality signing - after all he is arguably the worlds best - I honestly don't think for all the money he will command, and the length of service he will give (albeit it may be quality service) we should be looking to sign him.

Wigan need a stable half-back partnership, I fully accept some partnerships do not work and need changing ie. Smith + Tommy. However, IMO we should be looking at other options, I can't think of an example of the top of my head but A.N. Other should be a long-term signing and not just a 2-year project and then the half-backs have a re-shuffle.

If you need any evidence of the success of this, look at Leeds and Saints half-back partenerships.

Agreed Pryce desrves his chance before we sign a player un-necessarily and thus push him further down the pecking order. I want to see KP playing first team and being a dominant force which his size and speed commands.

As for RM swap for Bailey - not something I'd do, but that's just my opinion.

Would be a briliant signing, just the sort of player we need. Hes very very under rated IMO.

He is 30 by the way soon to be 31 born 29th March 1978

Definatly short term answers aren't the way forward or beneficial. Let get Sam a long term HB partner and watch them go.

The only problem tho is there aren’t any British SH’s out there are there who are good enough for what we need? Danny Brough is probably top of the pile but is he really that good? So I guess we will have to look overseas and the problem there is you hardly get any continuity as they don’t tend to stay for extended lengths of time which is what we need. Dobson still seems like the best option out there as he ticks all the boxes and is IMO a step up from Tommy at HB.

Who realistically else can we get? Serious question for those that say Dobbo isn’t good enough? Are Orford or Lockyer the answer then?

Why would Lee Smith want to move from the best team in the competition to Wigan?

It says in the article that Wasps are after him not us