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| Maguire hasn't instructed his players either way regarding the Press.
The players aren't Banned from talking to the Press, Andy Coley gave an interview on Monday of this week!
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I get the distinct feeling (And some of you may know where I'm getting this feeling from!), that the Wigan club decided at the start of the year not to get involved in any Public Slanging Matches and everything would be kept in house!
Richard Agar Comments - Nothing said by Wigan
John Kear comments - Nothing said by Wigan
Gary Hetherington comments - Nothing said by Wigan
Disciplinary issues - Nothing said by Wigan or Any Appeals (AFAIK?)
Referee decisions/controversy/choice - Nothing said by Wigan
Like I said, and in a couple of posts I made a few months ago which I can dig out if anyone would like me to, this has been the most impressive piece of "Management" that the club has overseen this year.
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| Quote ="BlackKnight"Apart from reading in a tweet from a journalist in your favourite newspaper - has this actually been confirmed?
I mean; the daily mail ALWAYS tells the truth and is never ever wide of the mark. Heaven forbid they make up a non-story - is Princess Diana on the front cover of today's edition by any chance?
Anything said to the press by the Wigan camp is going to be seized upon by the press - precisely because nothing has been said to date. Why dial up the tension and potentially turn what should be a classic game of RL into something that will be remembered for all the wrong reasons? I thought that Wigan were the dirty team and that leeds only wanted to play rugby? If so, then you should be applauding someone trying to prevent the game from becoming an 80 minute penalty-a-thon.
Maguire has spoken to the press and because he has some class and not started saying how the bloke who cleans the boots was really disappointed by McClennan's post match comments on sky or how Riddell rescues stray kittens in his spare time and sends present to all the other players in the league on their birthdays - there is nothing for people like you to pick holes in. Maguire knows that journalists will be desperate to quote something out of context (as they did with the Sinfield interview) to dial it up and sell more copy/get more hits. So rather than have his players worry that they might make a mistake when speaking to the press (take a bow Peacock); he has taken it out of their hands to let them concentrate on what they are paid to do.
The Wigan camp want to let the rugby be do the talking - rather than see the game descend into a soap opera style cat-fight in the press. If you think that's dull, then that's up to you. What I really think is that you want someone to say something stupid like McClennan has, so you can start all the "Wigan are cracking under the pressure" talk; which has been coming leeds' way so far.
Let leeds keep talking - it reminds me of Hasim Rahman ahead of his rematch with Lennox Lewis.'"
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| Quote ="FAXE LUCAS"no leeds player who [uIS PLAYING [/u in the game on saturday has said anything in the press are they banned to
players are played to play not talk what MM will be doing is taking the focus off the crap that went on and put it in to the big game on saturday clever coaching and the best thing to do.'"
Other than Sinfield, Ablett, Burrow, and Donald yes.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"still doesnt answer why he has banned his team talking in public.
I cant see what leeds have said which is anything other than a little bit of pantomime, its not like they have said a player deserves an injury or anything. It seems a bit of an over-reaction to stop players talking to the press.
at the very very least it shows that McClennan and Peacocks pantomime has affected them.'"
I'll answer it then.
It shows that Madge wants his players to do their talking on the pitch.
Good tactics from the Wigan coach. If we stay calm and composed and don't fall for Leeds' cheap mind games beforehand and their "gamesmanship" during what will undoubtedly be the usual poorly refereed, dirty game at Headingley, then we will win.
Madge knows this and is doing everything he can to make sure the players know this too.
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| Quote ="BlackKnight"Apart from reading in a tweet from a journalist in your favourite newspaper - has this actually been confirmed?
I mean; the daily mail ALWAYS tells the truth and is never ever wide of the mark. Heaven forbid they make up a non-story - is Princess Diana on the front cover of today's edition by any chance?
'" They werent at the press conference as they usually would, which regardless of anything means it has affected their preperation
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Other than Sinfield, Ablett, Burrow, and Donald yes.'"
only thing iv seen is the standard interview by sinfield which coley has given the exact same interview on wigans website expecting a tough game etc etc
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"you are confusing two things, responding directly to McClennans and Peacocks comments and talking to the press at all.
You would expect Wigans players to be able to talk to the press and avoid or be diplomatic in their response to McClennan and Peacock. The only reason to stop them talking at all would be he didnt trust them to not say something they shouldnt in response to McClennan and Peacock. Wigan are the only team to have their preperation affected by it.'"
I'm not confusing anything. Madge has decided to treat the comments with the contempt they deserve.
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| Quote ="FAXE LUCAS"only thing iv seen is the standard interview by sinfield which coley has given the exact same interview on wigans website expecting a tough game etc etc'" Sinfield has done another interview with the BBC, Ablett with SL, Burrow and Donald in the YEP
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Sinfield has done another interview with the BBC, Ablett with SL, Burrow and Donald in the YEP'"
but none of them at the press confrence which was your whole point
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"you are confusing two things, responding directly to McClennans and Peacocks comments and talking to the press at all.
[uYou would expect Wigans players to be able to talk to the press and avoid or be diplomatic in their response to McClennan and Peacock[/u. The only reason to stop them talking at all would be he didnt trust them to not say something they shouldnt in response to McClennan and Peacock. Wigan are the only team to have their preperation affected by it.'"
They have spoken to the press and they didn't get drawn into it.
Your trying to make everyone think that Leeds have won some kind of Physcological War game when in fact there was only Team playing it.
Your trying to make out that Leeds have some Moral High ground here when every man and his dog can see they haven't!
Just remember, jus because your team have won the Top Proze etc for the last 3 years it doesn't mean that everything they do nad have done was the correct thing and vice versa what every other team has done has been wrong.
You may have got more of them right, but you can't be right about everything all the time (Unless Your Tony Smith of course! ).
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"They werent at the press conference as they usually would, which regardless of anything means it has affected their preperation'"
Yeah!
You've got them really rattled!
I mean how will Wigan ever compete at the weekend when a couple of officials from the club didn't attend a Press conference and instead chose to concentrate their minds on "On the Field" preparations!
It would have been a much better idea I think for Wigan to trot all their players out at a press conference and publically apologise to the Leeds club for their non-existant Bad Behaviour!
I mean of course if a Wigan Player did that after any perceived misdemeanour then the Leeds club would accept it and just get on with the game and not Bleat about it wouldn't they?
Oh Sorry, Tommy tried that and Look what happened!
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| Quote ="FAXE LUCAS"but none of them at the press confrence which was your whole point'" Leeds made the whole squad available at the press-conference, Wigan 0
[iWigan getting nervous? Maguire has banned players from talking to press this week. Whole Leeds squad was available on Monday. Big contrast.[/i----Neil Barraclough
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"they dont need to get involved in tit-for-tat arguments do they, they can still talk to the press. Unless Maguire doesnt trust his team could be 'diplomatic' enough to avoid saying something they shouldnt.'"
What a moronic opinion.
You are rapidly turning into a laughing stock with your ever increasing views on this subject.
Our lads will do their talking on the pitch. It seems that your lot will whine to anyone who will listen.
If MM, IL or indeed anyone on the Wigan pay roll was coming out with the kind of guff that you’re Captain, Coach and players have been, then I would be greatly embarrassed
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Yeah!
You've got them really rattled!
I mean how will Wigan ever compete at the weekend when a couple of officials from the club didn't attend a Press conference and instead chose to concentrate their minds on "On the Field" preparations!
It would have been a much better idea I think for Wigan to trot all their players out at a press conference and publically apologise to the Leeds club for their non-existant Bad Behaviour!
I mean of course if a Wigan Player did that after any perceived misdemeanour then the Leeds club would accept it and just get on with the game and not Bleat about it wouldn't they?
Oh Sorry, Tommy tried that and Look what happened!'"
who is asking them for a public apology?
All i said was that the fact they hadnt trusted the players to attend the press conference as they normally would so it has affected them. We will see on saturday how much
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"What a moronic opinion.
You are rapidly turning into a laughing stock with your ever increasing views on this subject.
Our lads will do their talking on the pitch. It seems that your lot will whine to anyone who will listen.'" Because it seems they cant be trusted to do their talking using actual words! If they could why not just do it? Why have Wigan players attended other press conferences but not this one?
Quote If MM, IL or indeed anyone on the Wigan pay roll was coming out with the kind of guff that you’re Captain, Coach and players have been, then I would be greatly embarrassed'"
what actually offended you about what McClennan said this week? Or Sinfield?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Because it seems they cant be trusted to do their talking using actual words! If they could why not just do it? Why have Wigan players attended other press conferences but not this one?
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Why not email Wigan and ask them?
Genuine suggestion, because all you're doing at present is coming out with the same piece of claptrap over and over, as if you feel you're onto some kind of winner - when in reality people recognise it as the most desperate and pathetic ploy we've seen yet to try and make Wigan into the villains of the piece.
Just face the fact, Wigan aren't going to publically respond to the self-pitying statements made by the Leeds camp. Now that may irritate the hell out of you, but that's just the way it is. You'll have to deal with it.
PS: If you want my take, they may feel that responding to such rubbish will just generate more rubbish, and the whole thing will quickly become pointless bickering - kind of like this thread, which you've successfully managed to derail (and more fool me, I suppose, for falling for such idiot shyyte).
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"who is asking them for a public apology?
All i said was that the fact they hadnt trusted the players to attend the press conference as they normally would so it has affected them. We will see on saturday how much'"
Where anywhere does it say officially that Wigan hadn't allowed their players or trusted their players to attend the press conference?
I saw the YEP report on one of the earlier threads where the YEP reporter basically made out that Wigan were lucky to be allowed to stay in the Play offs whilst Leeds had done nothing wrong in the previous game totally ignoring the Buderus Spear Tackle, Ban and subsequent appeal as though it didn't happen!
So what this guy has to say does not alter my opinion (Based on what I know for a fact!) one bit!
Lets just say for 1 minute that Wigan/Maguire thought that it would benefit the club/team more to concentrate on Training/preparing for today's game rather than attend a press conference, Would that be so Mind boggling?
Because that's what's happened, nothing more, nothing less!
They did the same with Richards & Tomkins on Monday over the Albert Goldthorpe Medal, they allowed them to go to the presentation but not the press conference earlier in the day to announce it, they ere training etc.
As Cruncher says
You can read into it what you will, when it comes to Wigan other fans usually do!
Buth trying to divert the Leeds clubs pathetic Whinging this week and trying to blame Wigan doesn't wash with anyone on here!
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA":8hpxg9dkBecause it seems they can’t be trusted to do their talking using actual words! If they could why not just do it? Why have Wigan players attended other press conferences but not this [/onequote'" :8hpxg9dk
Actions speak louder than words. I am very confident that our lads will have strong opinions on the past two week’s events. I would imagine that MM has closed ranks and kept the lads away from the press. It makes sense totally, Wigan now have a great understanding of the current state of mind within the Rhinos camp, whereas you lot have not got a clue about what we are talking about.
I am also very confident that they will use it in the best way possible, by ripping right into your lot on Saturday. I aint saying we will win (it is too close a game to call). We have been brutal this year and I fully expect us to turn it up a notch or two on game day.
Quote :8hpxg9dkwhat actually offended you about what McLennan said this week? Or Sinfield?'"
TBH nothing offended me personally, but the insinuations that a Wigan player had injured a player after the tackle were below the belt.
The man is embarrassing your once proud club, the only surprise is that Hetherington has not yet chipped in, although I am sure he will have made his feelings clear to his bum chums at Red Hall
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| [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/wigan/9024266.stmI think this BBC headline sums it up perfectly[/url
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"They werent at the press conference as they usually would, which regardless of anything means it has affected their preperation'"
How does sitting around fielding pointless questions and crying like a spoilt brat help a players preparation?
Surely it makes more sense to go over tactics and the game plan for Saturday night. Failing that, some relaxation or light cardio or passing drills?
Considering that only a few senior/key players speak to the press before a game anyway; I don't see how not being allowed to talk to some journalists who will be desperate to stir up some nonsense is going to have a negative affect on their preperation?
Perhaps Maguire thinks that the leeds camp is talking enough for both teams?
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| Quote ="cadoo"Another reason we should all be saying our daily prayers for Paul Deacon to be fit.'"
Keep praying!
[urlhttp://www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-warriors/deacon_in_contention_1_1568919[/url
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"The whole Deacon thing is highly ironic IMO. When we announced his signature all you got on here was negative comments, he won't be able to get a game, etc. Now he's nigh on irreplaceable. Just goes to show how bad a signing Roberts is turning out to be. Anyone can get injured but his loss of confidence issue/myth is a joke IMO. Surely he's fit, isn't he? Playing in the reserve grade and called into last weeks 19? Why can't he force his way back in?
All in all, a massive disappoinment, especially after giving us glimpses of what might have been.'"
I think Roberts was signed on the basis of those glimpses, so I don't agree that he was a shocking signing. He suffered a severe injury after all. But I do agree that it seems to be taking him an inordinately long time to recover, and this doesn't speak well for his psychological state. At least Maguire is the sort of coach who will drop players like this until they get their act together.
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