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| Quote ="rubber duckie"When you see it written like that...(not trolling too much)...is that not the poorest Wigan team (I can recall seeing) in the 39 years of top flight football?'"
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But in any case, I bet if you compared Wigan’s squad to Warrington’s through the last number of years you’d say Warrington’s was better on paper. Yet here we are with the Grand Finals... |
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"When you see it written like that...(not trolling too much)...is that not one of the poorest Wigan teams (I can recall seeing) in the 39 years of top flight football?'"
The one which lost at Derby County last night is even worse |
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"When you see it written like that...(not trolling too much)...is that not one of the poorest Wigan teams (I can recall seeing) in the 39 years of top flight football?'"
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Yes, I see your point...but still there are more great players in that line up than the previous.
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On Marshall/Charnley: to be fair, looking at last season's stats, Marshall's record is pretty decent; he scored 16 tries in a curtailed season (Charnley 15), 7 assists (Charnley 5), 23 errors (Charnley 21), 62 tackle busts (Charnley 54).
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| Quote ="moto748"On Marshall/Charnley: to be fair, looking at last season's stats, Marshall's record is pretty decent; he scored 16 tries in a curtailed season (Charnley 15), 7 assists (Charnley 5), 23 errors (Charnley 21), 62 tackle busts (Charnley 54).'" how many games had each played though. Otherwise those stats mean nothing. |
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"how many games had each played though. Otherwise those stats mean nothing.'"
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Charnley is on a whole different level to a Marshall and no stats can deny that.
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Well, yeah, Charnley has done it for years at SL level. But I wouldn't like to lose two left wingers and be left with two right.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"Charnley is on a whole different level to a Marshall and no stats can deny that.'"
When he’s motivated he is but the novelty seems to wear off pretty quickly with Charnley. He had some really uninterested years at Wigan until he was given a kick up the backside when he lost his place to Manfredi and Burgess. He looked motivated and on fire for Warrington last season but by the end of the year and at the start of this one he doesn’t look quite as desperate.
It’s what keeps him as a good superleague winger but not a great one IMO. |
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"When he’s motivated he is but the novelty seems to wear off pretty quickly with Charnley. He had some really uninterested years at Wigan until he was given a kick up the backside when he lost his place to Manfredi and Burgess. He looked motivated and on fire for Warrington last season but by the end of the year and at the start of this one he doesn’t look quite as desperate.
It’s what keeps him as a good superleague winger but not a great one IMO.'"
Not helped by the fact I don't think we have wingers centres. But it's testiment to marshalls attacking ability that he's at similar stats given the experiance gap.
If cutting the wages or looking to put the no one towards a different position then it would be one of burgess or Manfredi to go to bring in a prop of reasonable quality. With either Davis it marshal covering? |
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I like Marshall he's got loads of passion for the club you only need to see that when he scores id keep him at Wigan !!
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Getting back to the four wingers debate. Most people seem to agree that Burgess and Manfredi would be first choice. On Friday we were having this discussion and the question was asked "When did they last play together in the same Wigan team"?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Getting back to the four wingers debate. Most people seem to agree that Burgess and Manfredi would be first choice. On Friday we were having this discussion and the question was asked "When did they last play together in the same Wigan team"?'"
Perhaps we need to let them go along with one of Marshall or Davies and bring in two new wingers that dont have a history of being out injured? |
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"See I knew you'd say that. It was a loaded question....that reply goes totally against the grain of your whole initial brave post....
Lockers desperate value to the team and only being able to forfil 2 handfuls of games a season, is why Wigan ought to have been looking for a replacement that can play 6 handfuls as season.
Wigan seriously are looking at this inside down....you cannot save lockers in games like London...it was imperative he played today... he must play vs Giants as this IS the biggest game you'll have all season if fortunes don't change, and you cant use hindsight, I can't see where that next win is going to happen.
Lockers needs to be rested again Saints Wire and Cas, games you'll not win and played vs London Hudds KR.'"
Lockers should have retired at the end of last season. Just shows how difficult it is to replace anybody in SL, and how the quality on the field, on the whole, has diminished so rapidly over the last 5 years. |
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