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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Time to ask Catalan do they 'really' need Sam?
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Is it really so far stretched to enquire? How much would it cost? I’m not perpetuating we were going to pay ZH a fortune but we could use his money to financially incentivise Catalans. Goes without saying we’d have to convince Sam himself to stay also.
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| If found to be true.... Mind the door doesn't hit you on the way out.... You can't cure stupid.
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| Up before the beak 11th October - 5 live
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| Goodbye Zak
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| Nowt more is likely to come out until the court date, so we can speculate all we want (within the boundaries of libel), but if what's been rumoured [iare [/itrue, all of us who said it was a bad idea at the time will rightly be in the "I told you so" camp. Without being smug or glad we're right, he should be given the boot at once & we can go on the hunt for a replacement that isn't permanently sat on the big red self destruct button. In that respect, I'd rather it's happened now than February or March next year.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"You seem to care a bit, however much you might try & disguise it.'"
The fact you're on here at all indicates that this is something you clearly hope for. But you're going to be disappointed.
Check the responses on here from other Wigan fans.
How many seem upset? Or even surprised.
Most were prepared to give him a shot - and that was the extent of it. He didn't make it, and so most now want rid.
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| Quote ="CyberPieMan"Nowt more is likely to come out until the court date, so we can speculate all we want (within the boundaries of libel), but if what's been rumoured [iare [/itrue, all of us who said it was a bad idea at the time will rightly be in the "I told you so" camp. Without being smug or glad we're right, he should be given the boot at once & we can go on the hunt for a replacement that isn't permanently sat on the big red self destruct button. In that respect, I'd rather it's happened now than February or March next year.'"
Completely agree mate and although its absolutely staggering that this would happen only a week after resuming training, he's probably done the club a favour by displaying this early that he hasn't changed and hasn't a hint of gratitude or respect for another club who gave him a opportunity.
Escare, Sarginson and Mullen are good fullback options. #7 is what we need.
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| You moved Joel tomkins on for less....
I think Wigan will give him another shot. When he's on song he is marquee. Can you really afford to lose Sam, bateman , wane and your best player for next season in 1 swoop?
Ultimate respect if so. I don't believe Wigan need ZH but whether the powers that be think that is a different matter.
At least he hasn't derailed this season for you as he's still banned, not through a lack of effort though !
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| Quote He’s also assisting police with their enquiries regarding a large quantity of class A found in the car.'"
Absolute non-sense. Zero involvement with any drug...only alcohol intoxication and his own stupidity are to blame!
Zak won't be a Wigan player next year, of that I am sure. I would like to add that I am not 100% sure Zak is entirely devastated about that!
I believe David Mead and the Toulouse #1 Mark Kheirallah are already notable targets.
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| Quote ="RichieS"Absolute non-sense. Zero involvement with any drug...'"
He’s involved as far as one of the passengers in the car has been charged with possession of class A.
Now of course Zak might not have known his mate had it, but you’d have to be pretty naive to think that given who his mates are.
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| He’s a Class A idiot. Just release him now and put the money where we need strengthening.
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| With genuine talent so thin on the ground in Superleague, it's both frustrating and sad that we look to be losing another to acts of self destructive stupidity.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"He’s involved as far as one of the passengers in the car has been charged with possession of class A.
Now of course Zak might not have known his mate had it, but you’d have to be pretty naive to think that given who his mates are.'"
You are a bitter obsessed Stalker, You've been sat waiting for this since day one, I bet your sat there now wringing your hands together hoping Cas will re-sign him
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| Quote ="RichieS"Absolute non-sense. Zero involvement with any drug...only alcohol intoxication and his own stupidity are to blame!
Zak won't be a Wigan player next year, of that I am sure. I would like to add that I am not 100% sure Zak is entirely devastated about that!
I believe David Mead and the Toulouse #1 Mark Kheirallah are already notable targets.'"
Well you have never been wrong before!!!
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| Was Hardaker present when Tony Adams visited -
Earlier this week the squad were visited by former England and Arsenal football captain Tony Adams who came to speak to the players about welfare, professionalism and his Sporting Chance Clinic. On the afternoon with Mr Adams, Shaun Wane said, “He’s a legend and a man who spoke very honesty. In any way if we can help players welfare and make sure they can have good lives then I will support that.”
I hope he took the contact details
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| Didn't want us to sign him, don't want to give him his 10th chance now. Get rid, use the marquee spot to entice either an NRL halfback or Gale.
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| Quote ="stpatricks"Was Hardaker present when Tony Adams visited -
Earlier this week the squad were visited by former England and Arsenal football captain Tony Adams who came to speak to the players about welfare, professionalism and his Sporting Chance Clinic. On the afternoon with Mr Adams, Shaun Wane said, “He’s a legend and a man who spoke very honesty. In any way if we can help players welfare and make sure they can have good lives then I will support that.”
I hope he took the contact details'"
Big Tony was partial to a drop iirc
As for Hardaker.
He can do one. Honestly just get rid now.
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| What a complete and utter prat. It's impossible to even imagine what must go through his head.
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"You are a bitter obsessed Stalker, You've been sat waiting for this since day one, I bet your sat there now wringing your hands together hoping Cas will re-sign him
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Hmmmm. Not quite sure where to start with that one, but I’ll have a go.
1. I’d hardly call it stalking. He’s a high profile RL player who is banned for drug use, sacked by Cas and signed by Wigan. His issues, including his recent drink driving charge, are all over the press and the internet. I’m hardly posting what he’s buying in Tesco or revealing stuff about his private life (in fact another poster in this thread brought up something I considered to be over the line).
2. I’ve not been waiting for it to happen, though I was pretty sure it would. I’m about the most sympathetic Castleford supporter you’ll find towards Zak. I’ve said numerous times that I hope he sorts himself out and that his welfare and well-being come above club rivalries and RL. He’s a nice bloke who suffers from mental health issues that impair his decision-making. I’m pretty sure he sis t wake up on Tuesday planning to drink and drive. I’m pretty sure he now regrets doing it. It’s just that when he’s faced with a choice, his mental health means he can’t make the rational one. He’ll apologie and it will be sincere. But when he’s in a similar situation, at that moment in time, he’ll make another bad choice.
3. Drinking and driving kills innocent people and destroys lives. To suggest I’m glad anyone is doing it is pretty offensive to be honest.
4. I said from the day he was banned that I didn’t want him back at Cas and I’ve never wavered. As you’re finding out, he’s not worth the hassle.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"I mustn’t be the only one now who is sick to the back teeth of reading or hearing about his well documented history? Just give the lad a bloody chance!'"
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| Quote ="ChrisA"What a complete and utter prat. It's impossible to even imagine what must go through his head.'"
That's the problem, everything goes through is head he cant retain anything, especially common sense!
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| Quote ="Sweaty Betty's"That's the problem, everything goes through is head he cant retain anything, especially common sense!'"
We are merely fans of a sports team, it's not our livelihood etc, we just get to feel frustrated by it. I wonder what he feels like after the event? He's had a few events now in his career, non as yet seem to have impacted his behaviour as he clearly has no self control.
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| Quote ="TOMCAT"The countdown to meltdown starts on the 8th of September, tick tick tick
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19 days, way to go Zac !
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| Just get rid.
I hope for his own sake he can sort out whatever problems he has, as we certainly don’t want another Newton.
But Wigan can’t seriously keep him now, I always got the impression that he wasn’t that bothered about playing for Wigan anyway.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"The fact you're on here at all indicates that this is something you clearly hope for. But you're going to be disappointed.
Check the responses on here from other Wigan fans.
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Most were prepared to give him a shot - and that was the extent of it. He didn't make it, and so most now want rid.'"
You’ve no idea why I’m on here & your assumption that I want to see Wigan fans upset/angry/annoyed couldn’t couldn’t be wider off the mark (fans have my sympathy, they support the club not individuals) My first point on the matter was about the resentment some still hold towards ZH; personally I couldn’t give too hoots about the lad; he’s done & will continue to do much worse before the light comes on.
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