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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"I go along with this tweet
Mark Wilson @MarkWilsonRadio
Didn't see the #england #rugbyleague game today so will hold judgement until next week. This may be the kick up the backside they needed'"
My thoughts exactly.
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| Quote ="dubairl"you also tried to make out on the VT that its charnley fault for losing because he knocked on.
but i agree this is England and not wigan v sthelens'"
Did I say it was all his fault? No. I said a Charnley knock on at the end gave them the game. That doesn't mean it was all his fault we lost. It doesn't take a genius to understand that.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Did I say it was all his fault? No. I said a Charnley knock on at the end gave them the game. That's doesn't mean it was all his fault we lost. It doesn't take a genius to understand that.'"
Maybe you should give a little more care to the wording of your posts. Or perhaps, you already did
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| Quote ="Kaii"Sinfield under no real pressure messed up two conversions what's he going to be like in RLWC2013, Ryan Hall getting the #2 in front of Charnley was a joke he was terrible'"
Whatever else Sinfield does or doesn't offer the national team is debateable , but goal kicking is not one of them I think most right minded RL fans would agree .
Regarding Ryan Hall , you are right , it is a joke . Its not like he's ever had a good game at international level is it ?
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"I'd feel a lot happier if we had Widdop and Brough as our half backs, with Sinfield bringing the kicking tee on and Chase having a holiday in NZ.'"
I`ll agree with that 100%
Sinfield should be nowhere near the England squad, after that joke of a coach said he was selecting on form. He played 3 games against Huddersfield last season and was rubbish in all 3. Plus the tv matches I watched.
I bet the Aussies are quaking in their boots worrying about coming up against our star studded McNamara squad.
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| Quote ="Buck Tarbrush"Whatever else Sinfield does or doesn't offer the national team is debateable , but goal kicking is not one of them I think most right minded RL fans would agree .
Regarding Ryan Hall , you are right , it is a joke . Its not like he's ever had a good game at international level is it ?
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Josh Charnley vs Ryan Hall for #2 shirt, no one in their right mind would pick Ryan Hall
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| RE Roby.
Cam Smith, Isaac Luke are the calibre your comparing him too. I like Roby I think he has a good role but he is nowhere near that level.
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| Quote ="blackpoolwigan"RE Roby.
Cam Smith, Isaac Luke are the calibre your comparing him too. I like Roby I think he has a good role but he is nowhere near that level.'"
I disagree. Most people outside of Wigan rate him within the top 3 hookers in the world. I don't expect you lot to agree.
He is one of few SL players who would command a starting spot in most NRL sides, hence at least 2 approaches for his signature in the last 6 months.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Did I say it was all his fault? No. I said a Charnley knock on at the end gave them the game. That doesn't mean it was all his fault we lost. It doesn't take a genius to understand that.'"
"I said a Charnley knock on at the end gave them the game" And you say that wasn't blaming him for losing. Are you for real.
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| Quote ="Singing Warrior""I said a Charnley knock on at the end gave them the game" And you say that wasn't blaming him for losing. Are you for real.'"
Yes I am for real.
The Charnley knock on gave them the game as it presented the opportunity to kick the winning drop goal.
That doesn't mean that he is to blame for the defeat as what went in the 75 minutes prior to that incident obviously had a massive bearing on the result.
This really isn't that difficult.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Yes I am for real.
The Charnley knock on gave them the game as it presented the opportunity to kick the winning drop goal.
That doesn't mean that he is to blame for the defeat as what went in the 75 minutes prior to that incident obviously had a massive bearing on the result.
This really isn't that difficult.'"
Why are you even here? there are plenty other forums on this site, and others, to discuss the game. All you do here is try and wind people up. Grow up
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| Quote ="Kaii"Josh Charnley vs Ryan Hall for #2 shirt, no one in their right mind would pick Ryan Hall'"
Ryan Hall and Josh Charnley play on opposite wings don't they? Didn't Briscoe take Charnley's place?
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| Quote ="Bill Sonny"Why are you even here? there are plenty other forums on this site, and others, to discuss the game. All you do here is try and wind people up. Grow up'"
Here we go again. A Saints fan has an opinion so without actually looking objectively at what has been said, let's all call me a troll and tell me to pi$$ off. Very intelligent response.
I have done absolutely nothing to wind anyone up and have as much right as anyone on here to comment.
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| Zak Hardaker should be in next weeks team. Drop Cudjoe , he's not good enough
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| Quote ="Pemps"Ryan Hall and Josh Charnley play on opposite wings don't they? Didn't Briscoe take Charnley's place?'"
I was just about to say something similar. It would be Charnley and Hall for me but if Briscoe was to take anyone's place it would be Hall.
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| Quote ="Brick with eyes"Zak Hardaker should be in next weeks team. Drop Cudjoe , he's not good enough'"
Hardaker at centre you mean? I wouldn't mind seeing Hardaker at 1 and Tomkins at 6. Watkins should come in at centre, if he is fit.
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| Watkins and Cudjoe can't tackle , Hardaker can . Hardaker also has a bit of spark to his play and he is Charnleys best mate. It's a no brainier pairing those two up
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| Quote ="Brick with eyes"Watkins and Cudjoe can't tackle , Hardaker can . Hardaker also has a bit of spark to his play and he is Charnleys best mate. It's a no brainier pairing those two up'"
I see the logic. That presumably means leaving Ablett on the other side though if you're discounting Cudjoe and Watkins? Not sure I'm convinced Ablett is an international class centre. I wouldn't mind Watkins and Hardaker at 3 and 4 though, I think Watkins is one of few strike players we have who poses a genuine threat from anywhere on the field.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Here we go again. A Saints fan has an opinion so without actually looking objectively at what has been said, let's all call me a troll and tell me to pi$$ off. Very intelligent response.
I have done absolutely nothing to wind anyone up and have as much right as anyone on here to comment.'"
You have the right to post anywhere, you are 100% correct. Why on earth would you come on a Wigan board, as a Saints fan, and post things that may be seen as a 'dig' at a Wigan player, and then moan when people accuse you of being biased and whatnot?
Like I said, there's tons of other board/threads/places to discuss the England game. You do it on here because you like the reaction you get when you highlight that a Wigan player does something slightly wrong. Pathetic
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| Quote ="Kaii"Josh Charnley vs Ryan Hall for #2 shirt, no one in their right mind would pick Ryan Hall'" Hall is the best winger we have but it should be him on the left with Josh on the right. I don't think Cudjoe is as bad in defence as has been said by some and he's one of only two out and out centres in the squad.
The main problem for me was the halves. No direction or control, seemingly no plan whatsoever when you'd think we'd be preparing for the game next week. We put on one decent second man play to get the ball to Sam in some space and scored from it. You'd think that our attacking structure would involve our best player quite heavily but on this performance McNamara seemingly has other ideas, like get it to Rangi Chase on the short side so he can run up his own .
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| Quote ="Kaii"Josh Charnley vs Ryan Hall for #2 shirt, no one in their right mind would pick Ryan Hall'"
am i drunk or is Hall a left winger?
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"am i drunk or is Hall a left winger?'"
he plays there for leeds so i guess so, as does briscoe for hull or previously at least.
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| Hall started on the right yesterday so you didn't need to be drunk just have watched the match
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| Quote ="Kaii"Hall started on the right yesterday so you didn't need to be drunk just have watched the match'"
It was probably just to allow Briscoe a game and maybe give Charnley a rest. I really wouldn't read too much into team selection for a friendly. The time to be worried is when he plays Ablett at centre against the Aussies.
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| Quote ="Pemps"It was probably just to allow Briscoe a game and maybe give Charnley a rest. I really wouldn't read too much into team selection for a friendly. The time to be worried is when he plays Ablett at centre against the Aussies.'"
This is the problem with modern day rugby, matches are thrown away and as punters we cant read into anything. We have no idea of what banana has in mind because I think ( and maybe we all agree) that he doesnt know what he has in mind. I couldnt see a classic coach such as Wayne Bennett throwing a match away, he's way too proffesional to do that and he's the benchmark for coaching. The aussies would never have lost to Italy it would be a national disgrace
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