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| Quote ="MattyB"Wigan still had part time players right up to 1991:
Blood Mud & Glory - Neil Hanson.
Ged Byrne - Visual Technician (Window Cleaner).
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Mike Forshaw - Worked with the council.
Andy Gregory - Scrap Metal business.
Brian Case - Bricklayer.
Mark Preston - Insurance Underwriter.
Billy McGinty - Landlord.
Ian Lucas - Antiques Dealer.
Phil Clarke - Sports Science Agency.
Andy Farrell - Did a couple of years as a labourer.
Yes, we had a few full time professionals like Hanley, Edwards...but were hardly a 'full time squad'.'"
ok then i still think your stretching it a bit im probably thinking a couple of years later the offiah era i still dont think leeds were the first pro team that had to be you lot you were the only club with any money
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"We also bought Stuart Fielden and had Brian Noble in charge...'"
Wasn't that the same year Hull KR were in the Second Division?
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"We also bought Stuart Fielden and had Brian Noble in charge...'"
isnt that what caused your salary cap problems
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| Quote ="MattyB"Wasn't that the same year Hull KR were in the Second Division?'"
yes your point been
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| This is brilliant reading. I've never known a more deluded set of fans!
Replacing Finch with Cronk, Soward or Widdop? Are you for real?
Fwiw when you are linked with Matty Smith, you can't really turn your nose up at Michael Dobson, even when you are the 'greatest team in rugby league.'
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| Quote ="Bill Sonny"are you actually serious?
do some reading you cretin'"
explain cretin what is me asking a question about wane so hard for you all to answer come on im still waiting
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"isnt that what caused your salary cap problems'"
Lesson number 2...
We actually deferred payments so we did not go over the salary cap. So even though there wasn't much wrong in what we did, we still went against the "spirit of the cap" which is what we were punished for.
You won't remember that though because you were still in the lower division then...
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"ok then i still think your stretching it a bit im probably thinking a couple of years later the offiah era i still dont think leeds were the first pro team that had to be you lot you were the only club with any money'"
But by the end of 1991 we had won:
The Challenge Cup in 1985, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991
World Club Champions in 1987, 1991.
Champions in 86/87, 89/90, 90/91.
When it was still a 'level playing field'.
By the time Offiah came, Leeds had purchased Ellery Hanley off us (for more than we originally bought him for), so desperate were they to emulate our success. They had Schofield, Gallagher (NZ RU Import) and many more, spent massive amounts of money to buy the success (but failed to win trophies).
We used the Hanley money to buy Offiah.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"explain cretin what is me asking a question about wane so hard for you all to answer come on im still waiting'"
We still want Wane out, he is getting very lucky due to the fact the standard of the league is rubbish and teams like Hull KR provide us with very little competition. We even lost to Widnes!
He will do though...
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"Lesson number 2...
We actually deferred payments so we did not go over the salary cap. So even though there wasn't much wrong in what we did, we still went against the "spirit of the cap" which is what we were punished for.
You won't remember that though because you were still in the lower division then...'"
dress up how you want you cheated end of and i wont even reply to your next pathetic thing you said
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"explain cretin what is me asking a question about wane so hard for you all to answer come on im still waiting'"
With regards to Shaun Wane, yes a very small minority on here questioned his credentials after the Hudds loss (big step for an assistant coach to up to Head Coach).
A few questioned his thought process for the selection against Widnes, where he rested 8 (IIRC) first team players. Many still think (me included) he got things wrong that day.
He's still learning and doing great. (Arguably better than Michael Maguire in fact - more fluid in attack whilst structured in defence).
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| Quote ="MattyB"But by the end of 1991 we had won:
The Challenge Cup in 1985, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991
World Club Champions in 1987, 1991.
Champions in 86/87, 89/90, 90/91.
When it was still a 'level playing field'.
By the time Offiah came, Leeds had purchased Ellery Hanley off us (for more than we originally bought him for), so desperate were they to emulate our success. They had Schofield, Gallagher (NZ RU Import) and many more, spent massive amounts of money to buy the success (but failed to win trophies).
We used the Hanley money to buy Offiah.'"
i was at the 85 cup final you beat us in the semi i was gutted it was the only time i wanted you to win though
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"dress up how you want you cheated end of and i wont even reply to your next pathetic thing you said'"
Some people take life way too seriously...
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| Quote ="MattyB"With regards to Shaun Wane, yes a very small minority on here questioned his credentials after the Hudds loss (big step for an assistant coach to up to Head Coach).
A few questioned his thought process for the selection against Widnes, where he rested 8 (IIRC) first team players. Many still think (me included) he got things wrong that day.
He's still learning and doing great. (Arguably better than Michael Maguire in fact - more fluid in attack whilst structured in defence).'"
to be honest the team that played widnes was probably stronger than the one that battered leeds last week even with that team you should have beat widnes
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"it was the only time i wanted you to win though
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I wonder why.
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| Quote ="MattyB"I wonder why.
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we like you'll never win at wembley song to much
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"to be honest the team that played widnes was probably stronger than the one that battered leeds last week even with that team you should have beat widnes'"
We rested too many pivitol players from key positions:
No Tomkins - Matty Russell (Debut)
No Richards - Gelling (Debut)
No Leuluai - Joe Mellor
No O'Loughlin - Chris Tuson
No Farrell.
We switched Charnley to the other wing.
And we still could have won.
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| Not arrogant at all...
Let's hope you don't mess it up, I'd hate to see that.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"=#800000Not arrogant at all...
Let's hope you don't mess it up, I'd hate to see that.'"
How ironic when you have a 'You'll never win at Wembley' banner as your avatar.
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"This is brilliant reading. I've never known a more deluded set of fans!
Replacing Finch with Cronk, Soward or Widdop? Are you for real?
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Could be worse.
We could have made complete tw0ts of ourselves, thinking we'd signed Willie Mason.
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| You could've but instead, what with you being the all conquering Wigan Warriors who sign who you want, you got Hame Lauaki instead!
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"You could've but instead, what with you being the all conquering Wigan Warriors who sign who you want, you got Hame Lauaki instead!'"
whos helped us to 3 points clear at the top and in the semi of the cc
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| Quote ="[Gareth"whos helped us to 3 points clear at the top and in the semi of the cc
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Of course he has
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"You could've but instead, what with you being the all conquering Wigan Warriors who sign who you want, you got Hame Lauaki instead!'"
Yeah at least he is still in SL. Willie Mason is the biggest turd in rugby ran off once he got a bigger cheque. Comparing Willie Mason and Lauaki is funny. Willie Mason has no heart for the game any more he is about the money. I would have had Mason of 10 years ago but not now.
We are not as stupid as some SL sides and pay too much for over the hill players. It shown now the strength in depth we have is amazing. Last 2 games with 4-7 players missing we hammered Leeds and beat Catalans in France by a big score. Can not wait until we get players back and improve even more.
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"You could've but instead, what with you being the all conquering Wigan Warriors who sign who you want, you got Hame Lauaki instead!'"
Yes, but you actually BELIEVED you'd signed him.
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