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| Quote ="Morning Glory"My take on it, and I'm probably in the minority here:
Did he make contact with Harrisons face? Yes
Was it foul play? Yes
If he had made contact with say Harrisons shoulder and held him down in the way he was trying to do, would he have been penalised for that offence? Yes.
Was it an intentional or premeditated gouge? No.
Is there a huge over reaction on this thread and a band wagon to be jumped on? Yes'"
If this was at another club then you would get max 2-3 pages on it. Wigan and this will run until the next game.
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| Wigan shouldn't wait for the disciplinary, they should tell the idiot ,"that has no part in our game and sack him, and they should also tell Lima that only little girls pull hair, if I was a Wigan fan which thank the Lord I'm not sir, I would be ashamed
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| Quote ="tank123"If this was at another club then you would get max 2-3 pages on it. Wigan and this will run until the next game.'"
stop posting on it then you clown
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| Quote ="Phil-P"Spot on mate - the holier than none sense that seems to have crept into rugby league from some supporters is embarrassing - being precious and thinking your superior was always something I associated with football fans not rugby league fans.'"
Not at all..I dont honestly know how Ryan Bailey gets away with some of the things he does and can totally understand when other players take it in their own hands to sort him out and Ive been a Leeds supporter since 1986. Noboby is superior but things can easily get out of hand especially when the Rfl are so weak.There would be a lot worse bans for all things if we had the same system as the NRL,which I think would be a very good thing.
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| Quote ="Pieman"stop posting on it then you clown'"
Ahh FFS and then i go and reply to even this one.
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| Whatever ban he gets is fine by me. One of the stupidest things I've ever seen on a rugby pitch.
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| Quote ="tank123"If this was at another club then you would get max 2-3 pages on it. Wigan and this will run until the next game.'"
Turn it in mate...IF it was Graham at Saints...Bailey for Rhinos .....Mason for Hudds...Westwood for Wire...Lauraki(?)..for Hull.....it would be the same..Dont start with the NO ONE LIKES US BECAUSE WE@RE WINNING CR@P...it was bang out of order,shown on live tv,was a headline game and was an offence which hasnt been seen for years..thank god..
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| well, most of the 12 game ban idiots on here are not wigan fans and just go completely over the top at anything someone in cherry and white does, as some sensible bloke said was it pre meditated? no it wasn't did it happen yes but probably not deliberate.
he will still get a ban for it and an extra game for the punch, i'll go for 3 games.
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| Quote ="Morning Glory"My take on it, and I'm probably in the minority here:
Did he make contact with Harrisons face? Yes
Was it foul play? Yes
If he had made contact with say Harrisons shoulder and held him down in the way he was trying to do, would he have been penalised for that offence? Yes.
Was it an intentional or premeditated gouge? No.
Is there a huge over reaction on this thread and a band wagon to be jumped on? Yes'"
You were clearly watching a different incident to the one I did. He even gave it a second go.
The lad has the physical attributes to be one of the best, but even by stereotypical prop forward standards he seems to be hollow in the head.
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| Quote ="burleywhite"Turn it in mate...IF it was Graham at Saints...Bailey for Rhinos .....Mason for Hudds...Westwood for Wire...Lauraki(?)..for Hull.....it would be the same..Dont start with the NO ONE LIKES US BECAUSE WE@RE WINNING CR@P...it was bang out of order,shown on live tv,was a headline game and was an offence which hasnt been seen for years..thank god..'"
Bull Shit. Tomkins last week was still runing last night. Graham has been forgotten in 2 days.
Face it most dont support their own clubs they just hate Wigan. If Wigan did not exsist then RLfans would have no one on it.
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| Quote ="burleywhite"
I don't condone foul play. The third man in stuff is not intentional to injure players FACT, as if it was we and many other clubs would have players banned every single week. I don't condone Sam's behaviour, it's been dealt with and finally Hock's actions I don't condone but look at the video he isn't even looking at the man so I don't think the pre-meditated 8 game ban that people are screaming for is going to happen. It happened, it was unsavoury and not needed but Matt King's forearm and elbow on multiple occasions into Lima's face could have caused similar damaged but he doesn't play for Wigan so it will be forgotten about.
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| Quote ="juicyjulie"well, most of the 12 game ban idiots on here are not wigan fans and just go completely over the top at anything someone in cherry and white does, as some sensible bloke said was it pre meditated? no it wasn't did it happen yes but probably not deliberate.
he will still get a ban for it and an extra game for the punch, i'll go for 3 games.'"
Take you cherry & White specs off for just two mins. It don't matter if it's premeditated or not, he's gouged another player which is a very serious offence.
He could have lost a eye but then he even stands up and throws a punch.
Dress up how you like, it's disgusting behaviour and your post is disgusting for making out it's nothing.
Just sit back now and think just what he's done!
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| Idiotic and totally unnecessary. Massive brainfart. Gareth Hock needs to eradicate this part of his game very quickly. Such a stupid thing to do because had he not done it people would have been talking about his very good performance and how he might possibly be pushing for an England place. He's the let the team down, but what's worse is he has let himself down. Again...
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| Hair pulling and eye gouging.... Just another page in madges player instruction manual.
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| Quote ="Smurf"You were clearly watching a different incident to the one I did. He even gave it a second go.
The lad has the physical attributes to be one of the best, but even by stereotypical prop forward standards he seems to be hollow in the head.'"
So your saying he went into the tackle or at some point in the tackle decided to gouge Harrison and it was in no way a bad attempt at holding him down to slow a very quick Warrington PTB?
It was clearly a foul and if he'd made contact with any other part of Harrison he would have been rightly penalised for holding down.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Hair pulling and eye gouging.... Just another page in madges player instruction manual.'"
Don't forget trying to infulance the ref at halftime
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| david howell got 6 games for biting so i think hock will get 8 games and maybe a final warning from wigan or be sacked
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| whoever the culprit is there is no room for it in the modern game,just as there wasn't a couple of years back when he was doing the same kind of thing - this guy is a thug,just as he was before and he and others like him should receive the punishment befitting the crime
I trust the RFL will do the necessary..........
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| There are tons of incidents in the game that are equally as dangerous such as striking a players face with the elbow when on the ground, dropping on late when a player is tackled etc etc. I trust EVERY INCIDENT in rugby league will result in the RFL doing what is necessary according to their rules and not the opinions of non-Wigan fans.
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| Quote ="steve slippery morris"david howell got 6 games for biting so i think hock will get 8 games and maybe a final warning from wigan or be sacked'"
Don't forget hocks poor record has to be taken in to consideration also.
Didn't he get banned for grabbing the ref once?
And we all know to well about his two year ban. Inhope they throw the book at him.
Just had to explain to my 8 year old what gouge means and why it's so bad.
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| Quote ="DannyT"There are tons of incidents in the game that are equally as dangerous such as striking a players face with the elbow when on the ground, dropping on late when a player is tackled etc etc. I trust EVERY INCIDENT in rugby league will result in the RFL doing what is necessary according to their rules and not the opinions of non-Wigan fans.'"
Appreciated but the is no room in any sport for eye gouging.
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| I wouldn't disagree with an 8 match ban minimum for an offence as serious as gouging.
Furthermore, to prevent RL going further down the football route of players constantly challenging the referee, I would like to see the RFL introduce say a 1 match ban against players who try to undermine the referee. There has been another example on Friday night where a player renowned for "spitting the dummy" was yellow carded on Friday night for indiscipline. There are a small number of players in SL who constantly challenge the referee's authority and decisions (team captains obviously are allowed to approach the referee) and this needs to be sorted once and for all.
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| That was an absolute brain fart from hock, disgusting from him, his season is over.
Which is a shame because IMO he was our best player today.
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| If he doesn't get a long ban something is wrong
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