Nothing wrong with big men grinding down the opposition with big hits and winning the collision, what you are being accused of is the more sinister wrestle in the tackle, bending peoples limbs into dangerous positions, putting pressure on your opponents joints etc., a tactic which is employed by your full team, not necessarily the "hard" men.

sit down and shut up,
we won the game, be stood up to your bullying tactics,
get over it and move on, support your team rather than bothering about ours

Ok we'll leave it there then, i'm sure this thread will continue straight after your next game.

I doubt it. Huddersfield only have 3 fans

Yet i believe it was John Sharp who worked with the referees pre season, after outclassed coaches had been whinging, to show them what defending players are trying to do and what type of tackle would be dangerous and illegal. So the referees no what to look for in an illegal tackle, and they very rarely penalise us for doing anything dangerous in the tackle

Yet only your team have a player facing the disciplinary for such an offence...

You seem to be missing the point that we're not arguing about just one game, this has been happening for a while and now people are just getting sick of it tbh. But yet when we state that we're not the only team/fans to raise the issue its "because it's Wigan". Pathetic.

No I don't think that, which is why I didn't say that. It is reasonably plain from the language he uses that he dislikes Wigan RLFC more than he dislikes Hull FC.

Using puerile columns like this particular one of Paul Cooke's weakens any argument you have, it doesn't strengthen it.

And yet the recurring theme of it is from coaches and teams who have lost to Wigan.

Did St.George complain about our technique? Did Leeds after they won at Wigan in the playoffs last year? Did Quins when they beat us last April?

It's about time more coaches accepted the fact that their teams and tactics simply aren't as good as Wigan's, and stop looking for a tired excuse to hide behind.

we are sick of people come on here saying that we cant play and we should be allowed to carry on playing like we are doing, and not one person has come up with any evidence to support their argument. It all sounds like sour grapes, and most teams that do it really need to watch their own team!

I have a feeling it wouldn't matter if Robert Peston wrote it, you'd still rubbish it as it's not what you want to hear.

Yeah it will, cos we will have beaten someone else, and they are looking for excuses. Just accept that wigan are back and better than your team!

What is sinister about wrestling in the tackle? All the defenders are doing in this case is trying to turn the attacker onto his back to slow the PTB, a tactic that has been used for the last 20 years that I can remember. Wigan and Huddersfield do it better because they have trained to do it, whereas other teams are trying it with less practice at it.
Jeff Lima has been charged with this in two matches, and quite rightly got a ban for it.
It is not our whole team that is doing it. One player has been charged and banned for it.

As much as it is tempting to accuse a whole team of dirty tactics when you are angry because you have lost a match, it rarely makes your argument convincing.

So Morris didn't complain about Tomkins(there's a recurring theme here) sticking his knees in late? He may not have gone public, but it happened. Anyways, you were shown up that night. St. George came over, went on day trips to Paris, hardly trained, hadn't played a competitive game for months and still looked 10x the team you did. But hey, that's another thread.

But it's not Robert Peston writing it is it? Robert Peston tends to write in a grown up manner (which is why you have mentioned his name presumably). Paul Cooke plainly doesn't, as evidenced by this piece of opinion (devoid of fact).

If what was written was based on any evidence rather than playground slanging, then I would take it more seriously. One Wigan player has been banned for a chicken wing tackle, yet Paul Cooke's piece implies the whole team are out to deliberately injure other players. There is no evidence for that whatsoever.

Because they are 10 times the team we are, and that just highlights the difference between Super League and NRL, not Wigan and everybody else. Way your going on, how do you think Hull FC would have fared against St George? Do you think you would have got within 6 points at full time? Winning at half time? ....

Who said you can't play? Stop being so defensive, you're usually excellent in attack, it's your tactics in the tackle that's being questioned, by more than just one or two people. You just carry on burying your head in the sand, obviously it's because we all hate you, because you're Wigan.

waa waa waa, least we got there,
stop showing yourself up,
how do you know what st. georgie did?
we will admit they where miles better than us,
so what, we did ourselves proud,

think this thread needs to be changed to east hull fc fan is a whinging rip

You're either incredibly stupid, or incredibly naive. Perhaps both?

how is he?
no1 has ever given us any evidence to show any of the accusations.
none that is substantial anyway,

A very careful, intelligent and concise post there, well done.

Are you not bored of insulting people for having the temerity to disagree with you yet?

there is no point continuing this discussions with you.
You are throwing around accusations that have no substance.
if they where from all teams, not just the ones we have taken points off, then maybe there is something.
if the team supported by the accuser played by the rules and did not do anything like what he is accusing wigan of doing then maybe again we would take note.

you have not provided us with a solid argument with evidence that there is something wrong, and you have yet to convince us that this is anything more than sour grapes.

So come on then, please tell us where Wigan are deliberatley trying to injure opponents by putting pressure on players joints. As a Wigan fan im keen to know when it happend, except Lima incident which he rightly so got banned. Please please let us know during which tackles it happend, because since the begining of the 2010 season nobody has actually told us

Yes a lot more intelligent than some of the drivel you've been posting. How did the sour grapes and hard cheese go down on Sunday night?