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| Pretty fair post FT.
I think SF is in the fortunate position of being able to make his decision not soley on a financial basis.
He has had a lot of money over the last 4 years.
Ofc I haven't seen his bank account, and this is pure speculation.
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| If fielden decides to go, FuiFui or Willi Mason as a replacement
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Surely all this is about negotiations?
Wigan have offered Stu Fielden a deal with the terms written in it.
He has asked for more than he's been offered.
His agent has offered his services around to see if there are clubs who will better Wigan's deal.
The agent has received offers which may well offer him say slightly more money but with a confirmed 2 years rather than a 1 + 1 which it is rumoured Wigan have offered. As yet we are not aware SF has re-signed with us or signed with another club. Negotiations are continuing we would deduce.
Fielden is an intelligent man who has put a lot of work in at Wigan. MM reckons him as one of the most professional players he's come across.
So what does he do?
He knows Wigan are on the verge of something big and long lasting with MM as coach and IL chairman.
Hull have reputedly offered him a good deal. Where would you rather be though?
At Wigan with what's happening here under IL & MM's leadership or at Hull with Kath Hetherington and Agar as coach.
Hull are a great club with superb support and facilities but it's run by Rugby League's version of Mork and Mindy! They are going nowhere, whereas Wigan are going places and Stuart Fielden will know the difference.
All he is trying to do is negotiate the best deal he can get for as long a term as he can get. Can't blame him for that.
My bet is on him staying!'"
so where were wigan going for the last few seasons?
the last two seasons before this season, we have had average players on big contracts, now them players have been released we are slowly building again, which will take a couple of seasons, i find your comments laughable as we have a board who has brought the club into the black, the past few seasons we have made profits, our merchandise is second to none and probably the best in the league for that! not bad for a mork and mindy act is it?
money talks in this game, challenging for honours or not, players will sign a contract thats best for them financially, afer all, there not on football wages!
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"If fielden decides to go, FuiFui or Willi Mason as a replacement'"
Willie Mason
Mike McIlorum
Gareth Hock
Ryan Hoffman
Joel Tomkins
Sean O'loughlin
You would love to see Keith Mason try anything with that pack!
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| It is interesting that Leeds' Maguire says that his team mates could get more money else where but prefer to stay at Leeds. That's the attitude we need at Wigan.
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| Fielden's won every club honour in the game and this is likely to be his last major contract - it's obvious what his motivation will be, and who can blame him?
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"If fielden decides to go, FuiFui or Willi Mason as a replacement'"
I can't see Fui Fui leaving the NRL anytime soon and Mason is apparently asking for alot more than Fielden will be asking for.
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| Wigan will NOT sign Willie Mason.
Straight from IL's mouth at last years shareholders meeting.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Wigan will NOT sign Willie Mason.
Straight from IL's mouth at last years shareholders meeting.'"
We could sign any prop if Fielden goes! Willie Mason would not be my choice.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"We could sign any prop if Fielden goes!'"
Only if you think Hoffman/Lima/Finch/Hock will be earning the same as the outgoing players like Phelps/Feka/Riddell/Bailey.
I suspect they'll be earning quite a lot more as a group (especially given relative exchange rates now compared to when the outgoing players were signed) - hence why SF is being asked to take a pay cut.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Only if you think Hoffman/Lima/Finch/Hock will be earning the same as the outgoing players like Phelps/Feka/Riddell/Bailey.
I suspect they'll be earning quite a lot more as a group (especially given relative exchange rates now compared to when the outgoing players were signed) - [uhence[/u why SF is being asked to take a pay cut.'"
No he isn't.
Fielden is being asked to take a pay cut because he's on an unsustainable amount given the Mo contract and the situation we were in when he signed, not because of signings for next year. Without any new players for next season do you seriously think we'd be offering Fielden a contract on anything like a similar yearly salary?
Fielden and Feka take around a quarter of our cap space, add in other likely departures such as Deacon going FT on coaching and Pryce and we should have more than enough to afford our high quality signings from Melbourne without taking food off Fielden's table.
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| Having further talks with Hull this week, nothing concluded yet but he is doing so with Wigan's blessing. Just trying to tie up the financial details but apparently it's close to being done.
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| Unless we have a replacement lined up we're right back to square one again.
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| Quote ="cadoo"Unless we have a replacement lined up we're right back to square one again.'"
You could argue we're worse off.
Feka and Fielden out, only Lima in.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"No he isn't.
Fielden is being asked to take a pay cut because he's on an unsustainable amount given the Mo contract and the situation we were in when he signed, not because of signings for next year. Without any new players for next season do you seriously think we'd be offering Fielden a contract on anything like a similar yearly salary?'"
Yeah I didn't word that very well - I was trying to make the point you don't have Fielden's salary to spend like for like, a proportion of it will have been spent on signings and contract upgrades for your excellent young players.
Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Fielden and Feka take around a quarter of our cap space, add in other likely departures such as Deacon going FT on coaching and Pryce and we should have more than enough to afford our high quality signings from Melbourne without taking food off Fielden's table.
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Don't agree with that - Fielden's salary will have been eaten into by the quality of signings made by Wigan this year. Deacon and Pryce will have been on a relative pittance.
Obviously I don't know the numbers, but Finch/Lima/Hoffman/Hock won't be playing for peanuts and some youngsters will be due upgrades.
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"If fielden decides to go, FuiFui or Willi Mason as a replacement'"
Fui Fui will not leave the NRL unless its for a ridiculous amount of money that would just be too good to turn down. Even then I highly doubt he will leave. We dont want Mason, useless, lazy and disruptive and will cost alot of money.
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"Fui Fui will not leave the NRL unless its for a ridiculous amount of money that would just be too good to turn down. Even then I highly doubt he will leave. We dont want Mason, useless, lazy and disruptive and will cost alot of money.'"
The Bulls offered Moi Moi a LOT of miney to come over as a replacement for Joe Vagana for 09 but the refused
mason is off to KR
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| and isnt Stuart coming back to Bradford ?
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| I would have thought the wages of Feka, Bailey, Riddell, Pryce and Deacon would/should eassily cover Hoffman, Linch and Lima.. Even if it did eat into some of Fieldens wage i would also think it would leave enough for 2 new players
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| Quote ="bigtruck"I would have thought the wages of Feka, Bailey, Riddell, Pryce and Deacon would/should eassily cover Hoffman, Linch and Lima.. Even if it did eat into some of Fieldens wage i would also think it would leave enough for 2 new players'"
deacon wouldnt have been on a lot cause who else would have wanted him ?
riddel would have been your top earner adn ye would probs cover finch / lima
hoffman will want a bit more
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| Feka and Bails aren't exactly on peanuts. I'd expect to see the vast majority of Fieldens wages available to spend
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| Quote ="sir steve menzies"The Bulls offered Moi Moi a LOT of miney to come over as a replacement for Joe Vagana for 09 but the refused
mason is off to KR'"
I know, I doubt you offered him the riduculas amounts that could tempt him though. Ive said this to many people that he wont come to superleague. It would take far too much money. The reason he wont come is his daughter, who has been very ill for some time. Many credit Moi Moi's surge in form last year to this and wanting to earn more money for her treatment. It must be bad enough for him that his family are in NZ.
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| Obviously I don't know the numbers, but Finch/Lima/Hoffman/Hock won't be playing for peanuts and some youngsters will be due upgrades.'"
apparently hock is coming back on low wage according some people in the know on this board. i personally dont know as i have no links with the club, but it seems the general, until he can prove himself.
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