But hang on a minute, you played pretty much like we did on Saturday, the only difference being you got a try 30 seconds from the end through fatigue to our players.

Should I judge Leeds on that performance to be a boring rudimentary side? Because reading your post it appears as though you've judged us on that one single game to be a poor quality side.

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All of us, was it? Or just one or two?





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Try again.

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Oooh ... miaow.





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Or in other words, when you've got something to crow about? Yes, you're probably right there. If we give you the chance, you'll be tosspot all the time. Well, at least you're honest.











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Saints and Wire fans in 'we don't like Wigans WINNING tactics shocker'

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I can actually hear the whiny scouse voice this laundry list of disdain is being given in.

And I can almost feel the coins and lunch boxes raining down as you try to handle being out of the cup again

Give it up, pal. We now know who and what you are.

OK. I just need to pull you up on this point.

Since all the whining started about "how long Wigan lie on for", I started a little (completely unscientific) study.

What I do is this:
As soon as the man carrying the ball is GROUNDED (i.e. The tackle is actually completed), I start counting.
Oddly, I very rarely get past 3 seconds before all Wigan's tacklers release.
Strangely, when I do the same for the opposition, I usually find myself getting to 4 or even 5 seconds REGULARLY, before they release.
However, Wigan are penalised far more by the referees for the PERCEIVED offense of "lying on".

This proves to me (in my own head only of course) that the referees are listening to people like Kear and now Hetherington and are trying to allay their "fears" by showing that they are (wrongly) penalising Wigan more heavily.

The vast majority of our grappling/wrestling is done in the STANDING position, BEFORE the tackle is completed, in order to force the man to the ground in a position that is advantageous to US.

There is NOTHING wrong with that, as until the referee calls "Held", we can maneouvre the man in the tackle as much as we want (within the rules).

IMO - Cummings needs to be having a word with his so called "Professional" referees and admonishing them for both listening and kowtowing to the officials that shout the loudest.

They should be above outside influence, but as we see week in, week out, they just can't help themselves.

The whole business by Agar, Kear & Hetherington is nonsense.

Teams have been slowing down the ptb for years.
Flopping was everywhere so they made it against the rules, so was hands in at the ptb, not standing square etc. All methods to slow the ptb down which have been made illgeal and will now be punished by a penalty. So why after all these years is there so much moaning about Wigan?

Why don't this lot instead on moaning actually watch what's going on! Wigan slow down the tackle, once the ref calls held or the ball carrying hand hit the floor and the ref shouts move, Wigan are off the player as quickly as any other team.

There are unmpteen rules about slowing down the ptb but not many if any about slowing down the tackle.

Every team there is wants their own ptb as fast as possible, they also want to slow down the oppositions ptb as much as they can get away with.

So I wonder why are they all banging on about Wigan so suddenly?

we could all contact mr.hetherington at, Gary.Hetherington@leedsrugby.com according to the rhino's site that's his contact address, i'm sure he would like to here our views on what's wrong with the game.

we could all contact mr.hetherington at, Gary.Hetherington@leedsrugby.com according to the rhino's site that's his contact address, i'm sure he would like to here our views on what's wrong with the game.

I don't know how Hetherington has the gall to come out with this tosh when his own coach is among the worst in SL at employing slowing down tactics.

The guy's a w@nker.

Every team tries it. FACT.

Nobody is saying that there is anything wrong with it, legally speaking, just that it is as boring as fook and doesn't equate to a better defence.

Wire don't do it but they have a better defence than you. Therefore, those on here and elsewhere claiming that there is only your version of rugby league or a tryfest are talking out of their backsides.

You still rambling on about this



The only thing boring here is you and all the other whingers....

Then why are you here?

because last time I checked this was a Wigan board

What exactly is it that Wire don't do?

I'm pertty sure that when they tackle they try and get in a position that gives them an advantage over the attacker. Or do they not worry about tackling technique?

I'm also pretty sure that they sometimes get 3 (or even more!) players into the tackle.

I'm also pretty sure that they peel off the tackle one by one to give themselves a decent chance of being square at the ptb and setting their defence.

Nice to see you revert to your usual Jibe, when you have nothing else to say!

Boring as fook because it's not scoot/penalty scoot/penalty scoot/penalty followed by fat Bob hurling his steroid addled frame over the try line from 1 yard out? The formula for Saints summer era success. THAT was boring as fook and one dimensional.

Face it, you're one of a few Saints fans popping up on this board this season not only rattled by the fact that you're no longer top of the tree but because Wigan are 4 points clear at the top of the league, employing effective tactics more successfully than anyone else. That's the top & bottom of it. You're running scared.

You're a little late, aren't you? Nearly three days after Saints won?

You're normally all over us like a rash the moment you get home.

At the moment it seems to me there are too completly different games of RL being played at the moment. You have to slow, wrestling dominated ruck in SL and the faster, cleaner ruck in the NRL. Personally I would try to bring in the 2 ref system into SL in the next couple of years and try and get some consistancy on the interpretation of the rules. Am I right in thinking that there're 3 different sets of rules? The rules in SL, the rules in the NRL, and then there's the international rules. It just seems ridiculous to me.

How are we supposed to have 2 refs per game when we don’t even have enough competent refs for one per game???

Nah, i'm not. I'm sure if you check my posts which you appear to be quite good at you'll see that isn't the case.

What utter bolllocks you speak