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| Quote ="Th'Observer"Too many drums is like "too many cooks, spoiling the broth" but one for the South Stand one for the East is necessary as far as I'm concerned.
If a drum isn't in the East stand this season then I hope we can get some songs going because the perception that the South stand is the stand were ALL the singing gets going is false and very often fans in the East stand begin and fans in the South follow.'"
Necessary?
Don't talk crap.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"Necessary?
Don't talk crap.'"
Looks like the wish for a drum is winning jack.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"Sorry mate, no such word.
Like everything else, you are just making it up as you go along.
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All words are "made up" it is called a coinage. If you want to look that up you may but you will not find it to be wrong as I have written a first class English Language degree paper on it.
And as for the drum: I think it is brilliant so I say; keep it. To be fair to you if you don't like it then move to further away in the east stand. I would never say the west stand as it is more money (i think) and you shouldn't have to pay more to avoid a drum but as far as I am concerned drums are all over sport and help to rally the fans which in turn helps the team along.
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| Quote ="hula89"
To be fair to you if you don't like it then move to further away in the east stand.'"
Why is that fair?
I was there before the drum was, so why can't the drum move?
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"Why is that fair?
I was there before the drum was, so why can't the drum move?'"
Because the drum has a position where it is most effective. Clearly you do not...
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"I said we should poll the fans, i.e. the thousands of them that go to the game, not just the gang of 12 year olds on here.
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Also if you are such an adult why are you partaking in an an argument with this "gang of 12 year olds"
If you are so bothered contact the club I am sure that they would be more than happy to conduct a poll to see if people like/dislike the club. They may of course simply say "we don't need to as it is quite obvious that the majority of fans like the rhythm of the drum.
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| Quote ="hula89"Also if you are such an adult why are you partaking in an an argument with this "gang of 12 year olds"
If you are so bothered contact the club I am sure that they would be more than happy to conduct a poll to see if people like/dislike the club. They may of course simply say "we don't need to as it is quite obvious that the majority of fans like the rhythm of the drum.'"
I don't dislike the club.
If you are going to try to be smart, at least try hard.
Why is it "Obvious" that most people like the rhythm of a drum? Where I sit there are about 20 people who seem to like it, and hundreds that don't.
You mean it's obvious to you, but that doesn't make it obvious to everyone.
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| Quote ="hula89"Because the drum has a position where it is most effective. Clearly you do not...'"
It's not effective from my point of view.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"I don't dislike the club.
If you are going to try to be smart, at least try hard.
Why is it "Obvious" that most people like the rhythm of a drum? Where I sit there are about 20 people who seem to like it, and hundreds that don't.
You mean it's obvious to you, but that doesn't make it obvious to everyone.'"
It was a typo I of course meant drum. Your decision to focus on this point clearly shows that your argument is flawed and you know for a fact that if the club were to conduct a poll it would go against your wishes and you would have to walk away with your tail between your legs.
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| Quote ="hula89"It was a typo I of course meant drum. Your decision to focus on this point clearly shows that your argument is flawed and you know for a fact that if the club were to conduct a poll it would go against your wishes and you would have to walk away with your tail between your legs.'"
How do you know that?
Prove it.
Go ahead, show me your evidence.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"It's not effective from my point of view.'"
Well if it was you would be fairly idiotic to argue that it was something you dislike. I do not believe that it is a coincidence that the atmophere wasn't as good as normal last week at the same time as the drum is missing.
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| Quote ="hula89"Well if it was you would be fairly idiotic to argue that it was something you dislike. I do not believe that it is a coincidence that the atmophere wasn't as good as normal last week at the same time as the drum is missing.'"
Do you not think it might have had something to do with the distinct lack of away supporters?
Now then, this evidence you have that proves the majority of people favour the drum.
Go on, I'm waiting.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"How do you know that?
Prove it.
Go ahead, show me your evidence.'"
I do not have any evidence but nor do you to your claims.
If you are so bothered by the drumming then go and contact the club because I now grow tiresome of your moaning.
You prove that more people dislike the drums than like them and I will accept your argument but at the end of the day I find it very unlikely. There is a reason that drums are in almost every stadium in the country if they didnt work we would be the only ones with one.
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| Quote ="hula89"I do not have any evidence but nor do you to your claims.
If you are so bothered by the drumming then go and contact the club because I now grow tiresome of your moaning.
You prove that more people dislike the drums than like them and I will accept your argument but at the end of the day I find it very unlikely. There is a reason that drums are in almost every stadium in the country if they didnt work we would be the only ones with one.'"
I have never stated that most people dislike the drums. I said that a lot of people around me consistently moan about the drum.
You stated that it was "Obvious" that any vote would come out in favour of the drum.
All I want is your evidence. Nothing more, nothing less.
PS, Sorry, you seem to have moved on from your "obvious" statement to it is a "fact" that the vote would go in favour of a drum. You must have some really good evidence to back up that claim. Can't wait to see it. Go on.
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| Quote ="hula89" because I now grow tiresome of your moaning.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"I have never stated that most people dislike the drums. I said that a lot of people around me consistently moan about the drum.
You stated that it was "Obvious" that any vote would come out in favour of the drum.
All I want is your evidence. Nothing more, nothing less.
PS, Sorry, you seem to have moved on from your "obvious" statement to it is a "fact" that the vote would go in favour of a drum. You must have some really good evidence to back up that claim. Can't wait to see it. Go on.'"
PS, Check the Poll at the top of the page...
FACT! People are going in favour of the drum.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"I have never stated that most people dislike the drums. I said that a lot of people around me consistently moan about the drum.
You stated that it was "Obvious" that any vote would come out in favour of the drum.
All I want is your evidence. Nothing more, nothing less.
PS, Sorry, you seem to have moved on from your "obvious" statement to it is a "fact" that the vote would go in favour of a drum. You must have some really good evidence to back up that claim. Can't wait to see it. Go on.'"
Grow up and take your moaning elsewhere. As I have pointed out I now grow tiresome of your moaning.
IF IT BOTHERS YOU SO MUCH GET OFF RLFANS FORUM AND GO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!
I am not arguing any more. You called this site a "Gang of 12 year olds" go somewhere else then so you can stop ruining our board with your pathetic moaning.
I may not know whether a poll would come out on top but we dont know until someone conducts it. As it is the drums are allowed and I am happy go and do something about it if you are not.
So i finish with this: If you aint gonna do anything about it then Put up or shut up!!!
As for the "English Language Degree" comment. Get a life this is an internet message board I am not really bothered about my structure and word usage here so grow up.
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| Quote ="hula89"Grow up and take your moaning elsewhere. As I have pointed out I now grow tiresome of your moaning.
IF IT BOTHERS YOU SO MUCH GET OFF RLFANS FORUM AND GO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!
I am not arguing any more. You called this site a "Gang of 12 year olds" go somewhere else then so you can stop ruining our board with your pathetic moaning.
I may not know whether a poll would come out on top but we dont know until someone conducts it. As it is the drums are allowed and I am happy go and do something about it if you are not.
So i finish with this: If you aint gonna do anything about it then Put up or shut up!!!
As for the "English Language Degree" comment. Get a life this is an internet message board I am not really bothered about my structure and word usage here so grow up.'"
After what I thought was a decent start, you just faded away didn't you?
No back up to your silly assertions, poor diction, and no stamina.
Shame.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"Sorry mate, but when your voice breaks can you translate that load of pap for me?'"
Have you ever considered that lacing most of your posts with expletives, and calling anybody who disagrees with you a child is probably not the best way to persuade folk of your argument?
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Have you ever considered that lacing most of your posts with expletives, and calling anybody who disagrees with you a child is probably not the best way to persuade folk of your argument?'"
Pap is an expletive? You really have had a sheltered upbringing.
I'm not having an argument, I merely stated my opinion that drums are not necessary.
Other posters on here have stated "fact" to me that most people like the drum, and yet no evidence has been forthcoming.
If you recall the last survey that the club did, the average age of the Wigan fan was in the mid 40's, which based on the assertions of the posters on here, would put the majority of fans in the age bracket that would not appreciate the drums.
However, let's not let the total lack of evidence distract us from the "obvious fact" that 100% of Wigan fans like drums.
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