I can't be bothered getting involved in the general jist of this thread, because it's all a bit pointless. But I'm sure if there was a grain of truth in this particular accusation, the rest of the game would have been up in arms. Better make sure you're bang-on with your facts, pal, else you'll wind up in trouble.

That said, you've done a pretty decent job of distracting attention away from Long's admitted string of offences. So well done on that score. Though why the hell you would want to defend someone who's cast your club in such a bad light is beyond me.

As a Wigan fan its difficult to be unbiased about Saints so I'd welcome comments from fans of other clubs, but at times I wonder what hold Saints have over the RFL - whether its the RFL ignoring Long's latest revelations about the circumstances surrounding that notorious game against Bradford (some pretty serious allegations in that book which if true would bring the game into further disrepute) or KFC's very lenient treatment by the RFL disciplinary process (again) or repeated salary cap infringements or the poor state of KR, they just seem to be treated with kid gloves by the RFL.

I'll ignore the usual inevitable nonsense and diatribes from Saints fans but would be interested to hear what fans of other clubs think: is there something in this or not, is it just part of a wider bigger club favouritism that people think helps say Leeds and Wigan too?

I remember that Wakey fans were up in arms earlier in the season about a KFC incident and the way that was dealt with by the RFL so I'll be interested to hear what they think in particular - is Long's book just part of a wider pattern of Saints "getting away with it"?

Terry Newton was no angel while at Wigan, (Elbow to Long Jaw), get over it!!!!

as he is a good friend of my plant pot x-brother in law i very much doubt that bit.

lol

Well it appears though the idiot may yet again be in more trouble.

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Interesting quote from Long:

[iAt the end of the day, if I'm writing a book – and it's quite an honest book – I want to be honest with myself when I am writing it. If that's my opinion, and everyone has their own, it might not be right. But that's my opinion and that's why I have written it that way."[/i

Except that it's not simply an opinion. It's an allegation made against other players, by someone who was clearly in a position to know.

At the end of the day, this a stunt pulled by Long to sell more books, but it's a stunt that shows a healthy disrespect for the game, which, given that he hoped to be involved in it for another two years, suggests a level of idiocy that I didn't think even Sean Long was capable of.

Ah! It appears that the protection offered by being a Saints player may no longer be available to Long, now that he is about to become a Hull player!

He may well rue the day he decided to leave KR but not for footballing reasons....







If he is punished severely for this latest issue it will add fuel to the fire. Saints fans can cry conspiracy theory all they want but we all know that RL politics do exist, it is a strange and murky world at times and if Long is seen to be being dealt with more firmly now than previously then it will provide more evidence of pro-Saints bias at RFL headquarters....

Did he or did he not get punished for that?

What revelations could be next:

Bryn Hargreaves lurking on the grassy knoll when JFK was assassinated;
Jon Wilkin driving a white Fiat through Paris in '97;
Stan Wall covertly working with George Bush to mastermind 9/11.


I believe Dan Brown is working on his next masterpiece: "The McManus Code" which will unravel the inner workings at Saints and the close links to a dark and murky world of the RFL. What secrets does Eammon know that could bring the game to its knees? Why does Nigel Wood look like a giant otter? What could Richard Lewis be hiding in his tennis bag? How did Craig Spence ever get his job?

We need the answers, and we need them NOW!

Stan is well known for his secret goverment operations. The fact hes not very good at it means there not very secret

Lol, however no difference to what many said about Mo's "influence" over the RFL.

However should it not be what pictures does Richard Lewis have in his bag, to keep his job. Or can i not say that?

I just never understand why players write books when they are still playing, he could have said all this in 2 years and whilst everyone may have thought he was a fool, there was nothing the RFL could do about it.

This is Sean Long though

do you know what this thread and others like it on here at present comes down to !!! YOUR GUT SICKENING ENVY. if its not our ground that's crap its 90% of our players or the fans etc, you really think its your god given right to win everything and be held up has the finest nay greatest club of all time well you not so get over yourselves you lost { again } on Saturday live with it and stop your whinging

Funny as there's a similar thread on Red Vee - are they envious of themselves?

longy single handedly beat you on Saturday and you cant get over it

go to the main topic board and just examin the posts your all like babies

So do you think Longs book presents himself and the game in a good light.
That is what this thread is about.

Look at the praise for Steve Prescott.

Are you a tantrum specialist or something? Even by your own spectacular standards, that pile of crap really is only worthy of a little kid. I can even hear the whiney scouse voice as you bawl at the computer screen. For God's sake, join the debate like an adult.

But be prepared to be put right on something. You and club have nothing - absolutely nothing - that Wigan fans should be envious of. You've won quite a lot in recent years, but yet again your club is in the press for all the wrong reasons. And don't pretend that isn't an issue, because an awful lot of your own fans - the majority of whom are clearly a lot less tolerant of disgraceful behaviour than you - are fed up with it.

Can't you even see that Long's latest antics have totally overshadowed your achievement of getting to another Grand Final?

if you read the comments the wigan fans have written about him on these pages you might expect some kind of defense from a Saint, He may be Wigan born and bred and you may or may not have wished he had stayed in Wigan to play but from a Saints fans point of view he quite frankly as been one of the all time greats of our sport and to listen to a few of your so called rugby fans tear him to shreds is not on . He is just your typical Wiganer for me.

typical !! a scouse drawl ? you got a manc one ???????????

I dont think anyone has questioned his ability as a athlete. It is his moral fibre that has been called into question, and if you are defending said moral fibre, you are truly sad.

Not one fan of rugby should defend him for betting on his team to loose or any other of the antics that are in his book, or indeed the ones he has left out to stop him looking like a complete fool.