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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Potter I didn't mind, coaches tend to do that kind of thing, but I'd agree with some of the fans defence. It's plain as day that he gives him a whack, you can see him shift his grip on the ball to do it.
Though if someone hadn't started that completely untrue rumour of severe injury the outcry wouldn't have been anywhere near the same.'"
And your fans defended him almost to a man and said it wasn't anything!!!!
Then Tomkins makes what is a legitimate tackle (No-one will ever know if he MEANT him an injury) and there looking to string him from the nearest Gallows!!!!
TBH it's all a load of boll0x and if that's all Staind fans can moan about after a game as hard as that then it'll do for me, They know they have, like Wigan don't, any excuses.
Most composed team won and both teams come out of it with a lot of credit!!!!!!!
There's not a bugd between the 2 now and if both clubs use their heads and recruit half decent and retain the right youngsters from their respective crops we'll be having a lot more arguments over tight games in the next few years!!!!!!!!
I suspect we may even be on the right end of the results a few more times as well!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"And your fans defended him almost to a man and said it wasn't anything!!!!'"
Sorry, I meant that I agreed with you on the Saints fans defence. It's as dodgy as you lot defending Tomkins
Quote Then Tomkins makes what is a legitimate tackle (No-one will ever know if he MEANT him an injury) and there looking to string him from the nearest Gallows!!!!'"
That's why I think the warning letter was appropriate.
Quote TBH it's all a load of boll0x'"
Too true
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and if that's all Staind fans can moan about after a game as hard as that then it'll do for me, They know they have, like Wigan don't, any excuses.'"
We won, what else would we moan about?
Quote Most composed team won and both teams come out of it with a lot of credit!!!!!!!
There's not a bugd between the 2 now and if both clubs use their heads and recruit half decent and retain the right youngsters from their respective crops we'll be having a lot more arguments over tight games in the next few years!!!!!!!!
I suspect we may even be on the right end of the results a few more times as well!!!!!!
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Agreed, bar that last sentence
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| I look forward to the RFL's new rules for 2010.
"Defenders may only tackle an opposition player round the legs from the front or rear, and only when in motion. Defenders may not tackle from the side, and certainly not below the waist, and certainly not when the attacker is stationary and prone. If the attacking player has been held for a moment and the referee has yet to call 'held', players must pre-empt the referee's call and refrain from tackling for fear of a warning letter. Nevertheless, should the attacker manage to offload or continue his run, play will be allowed to continue."
How the feck is Burrow supposed to tackle Big Eorl??
Pathetic. Whether it caused damage or not, it was a legal and legitimate hit. Fatty KFC and his wailing fan club need to get the feck over it and move on.
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| Quote ="Buffalo"I look forward to the RFL's new rules for 2010.
"Defenders may only tackle an opposition player round the legs from the front or rear, and only when in motion. Defenders may not tackle from the side, and certainly not below the waist, and certainly not when the attacker is stationary and prone. If the attacking player has been held for a moment and the referee has yet to call 'held', players must pre-empt the referee's call and refrain from tackling for fear of a warning letter. Nevertheless, should the attacker manage to offload or continue his run, play will be allowed to continue."
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Summed up very nicely.
I've never seen such a none issue blown up out of all proportion quite like this before.
If Cunningham hadn't spat the dummy out nothing would have been said or done by the RFL and i think we all know that.
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| FFS get real, it's rugby, he was perfectly legally tackled, it's not tick n pass, move on. Just cos everyone else tackles around the torso / head, it's noticeable when an effective low tackle is made. It's certainly how I was taught to tackle by a former Wigan 1st team coach.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"
A argument of 'but look at what someone else did' is the argument of a child, if you didn't think what he did was incorrect, fine, but if you did say so. The fact that the RFL deemed it necessary to issue a warning indicates that there was something wrong with the tackle. .'"
The argument is not "look what someone else did". The argument is what a joke you lot are for criticising a Wigan player for a 50-50 tackle when a week earlier you were all defending a 95% certain punch in in the face by a Saints player.
Denying that such double-standards are embarrassing is also the attitude of a child.
And what you personally feel about the Cunningham punch is neither here nor there, as a lot of your folk reckoned it was nowt and you apparently defend their right to say that.
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| A 12 page thread on the Saints forum and a 6 page thread on the Wire forum.
Obsessed.
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| Quote ="ABP'"A 12 page thread on the Saints forum and a 6 page thread on the Wire forum.
Obsessed.
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The fact that they all now hate Sam Tomkins is a very good sign. What it really means is they fear him.
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| Quote ="ABP'"A 12 page thread on the Saints forum and a 6 page thread on the Wire forum.
Obsessed.
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They are really beginning to hate Tomkins on the Wire forum too. A few of them would really like to see Morley sort him out. Apparently he's always tackling players at knee level, from the side, when they standing still. He always does it. Always.
Personally I'll take the few one eyed supporters hatred of him as a compliment.
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| Quote ="ABP'"A 12 page thread on the Saints forum and a 6 page thread on the Wire forum.
Obsessed.
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I sometimes wonder if i'm on the Wigan board ... I have to keep checking...
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Quote ="ABP'"A 12 page thread on the Saints forum and a 6 page thread on the Wire forum.
Obsessed.
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I know, pathetic isn't it mate.
viewtopic.php?t=421960
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Quote ="ABP'"A 12 page thread on the Saints forum and a 6 page thread on the Wire forum.
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I know, pathetic isn't it mate.
viewtopic.php?t=421960
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Sorry pal, no comparison. Misbehaving players is an issue we all should be concerned with, as most teams have now been let down by such antics.
Page after page however of vitriol aimed a particular player at a rival club - albeit a player you may be terrified of - is truly pathetic.
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Sorry pal, no comparison. Misbehaving players is an issue we all should be concerned with, as most teams have now been let down by such antics.
Page after page however of vitriol aimed a particular player at a rival club - albeit a player you may be terrified of - is truly pathetic.
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The difference is;
That thread was created to highlight that those Wire players were stupid.
The opposition threads in regards to Tomkins were created because he's awesome.
That's the difference, G'.
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The difference is;
That thread was created to highlight that those Wire players were stupid.
The opposition threads in regards to Tomkins were created because he's awesome.
That's the difference, G'.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"The fact that they all now hate lee briers is a very good sign. What it really means is they fear him.'" Thats not right is it..
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| Quote ="Pemps"They are really beginning to hate Tomkins on the Wire forum too. A few of them would really like to see Morley sort him out. Apparently he's always tackling players at knee level, from the side, when they standing still. He always does it. Always.
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My favourites are that he looks like a smack head and a little scrote!
He's getting to everybody.............it's fantastic
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| Quote ="ABP'"The difference is;
That thread was created to highlight that those Wire players were stupid.
The opposition threads in regards to Tomkins were created because he's awesome.
That's the difference, G'.
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They were created to highlight that aiming at knees in the tackle are dangerous and something we don't want to see in our game, I agree there are some bellends who slag good players off from other clubs but at the end of the day it's still the same. It's going to be ban central on both forums come saturday night.
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| Quote ="Black Dodger"They were created to highlight that knees in the tackle are dangerous and something we don't want to see in our game, I agree there are some bellends who slag good players off from other clubs but at the end of the day it's still the same. It's going to be ban central on both forums come saturday night.'"
Your right!
But what's that got to do with Sam Tomkins Tackle??????
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| Quote ="Black Dodger"They were created to highlight that knees in the tackle are dangerous and something we don't want to see in our game'"
What's that got to do with Tomkins?
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| Quote ="ABP'"What's that got to do with Tomkins?'"
Apologies, typing error.
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| Quote ="Black Dodger"They were created to highlight that knees in the tackle are dangerous and something we don't want to see in our game, I agree there are some bellends who slag good players off from other clubs but at the end of the day it's still the same. It's going to be ban central on both forums come saturday night.'"
He did not have knees in at the tackle he was slightly late and came in from the side making contact with knee area of the tackled player.
The actual wording from the RFL is. (Undue pressure on knee/contrary conduct in 20th minute (Cunningham))
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"In some way or other yes, but plenty players manage to do it week in and week out without hitting the standing player fully side on on the knee.
It can be, which is why cheap shots aren't welcomed. And it was a cheap shot.
A argument of 'but look at what someone else did' is the argument of a child, if you didn't think what he did was incorrect, fine, but if you did say so. [uThe fact that the RFL deemed it necessary to issue a warning indicates that there was something wrong with the tackle. [/u
On the punch issue from last week, I thought Cunningham did punch Stosic, but then many a punch is thrown in SL and very rarely are bans dished out for it.'"
So what you are saying is that the RFL are always right and don't make mistakes.
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| Quote ="Black Dodger"Apologies, typing error.'"
At the end of the day a thread wouldn't have even been created had it been one of our less profile young players.
The reaction is just an opportunity to vent fustration towards a player whom some opposition supporters deem a threat.
In reality, the 'incedent' (that has gone unpunished) isn't really that big of a deal and the fact there is still whinging, crying and baying for blood by rival supporters simply compliments Tomkins performances and potential.
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| Quote ="ABP'" simply compliments Tomkins performances and potential.'"
I totally agree with that, still comes to the same conclusion, was there a 9 page thread on Ben Cockayne?
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| Quote ="Pemps"They are really beginning to hate Tomkins on the Wire forum too. A few of them would really like to see Morley sort him out. Apparently he's always tackling players at knee level, from the side, when they standing still. He always does it. Always.
Personally I'll take the few one eyed supporters hatred of him as a compliment.'" 100% agreed what do they want the lad to do take all the big guys on so he gets run over?
What the dire fans dont like is sam is getting more praise then myler
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| Quote ="Black Dodger"I totally agree with that, still comes to the same conclusion, was there a 9 page thread on Ben Cockayne?'"
Who?
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