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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"He played on the right wing for the Reserves on Sunday.'"
Believe it's his natural side.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"What's it go to do with you scouser?'"
Go back to bed if your tired Mr Kenny !
and yes i am a scouser and yes i support Wigan but comments like yours to somebody who is not actually trolling for a change and is actually showing an interest on another teams forum proves your a t#t !
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| Quote ="Bilko"I worked it out myself.
Robinson's only played at Wigan so his strike rate was 60.8%
Dallas during his Wigan career was 60.4%
Offiah at Wigan was a staggering 116.8% - although this is currently bettered by Shaun Ainscough lol!'"
so roberts need to get his figer out sharpish to come anywhere close to JR and BD, ane he wont get anywhere near chariots, so hes never going to be a wigan "great" unless he scores about 200 tries during rest of his contract.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"
I worry that some of this anti-Roberts feeling stems from the Ainscough business. I don't think that Roberts has been particularly better than Ainscough since he arrived at Wigan, though at least he goes up for the ball rather than watching it land in the attacking winger's arms (having said that, he usually then drops it so why bother?), but Roberts plays on the right and Ainscough on the left. Does that not make a difference? In my own playing days, I knew many three-quarters who favoured one particular side, and were nowhere near as effective on the other. If that's the case, then drawing comparisons between Ainscough and Roberts is a bit pointless. Surely we should be drawing them between Ainscough and Richards, which would be a 'no contest'.'"
You couln't be more right. Fact is it chould be pat getting the "your standing in the way of the chosen one" hostility, but he doesn't, even though Ainy plays on his side, but nnnaahhh it's all Roberts fault.
Oh, and Nobles
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| Quote ="Batesy"You couln't be more right. Fact is it chould be pat getting the "your standing in the way of the chosen one" hostility, but he doesn't, even though Ainy plays on his side, but nnnaahhh it's all Roberts fault.
Oh, and Nobles'"
Theres a reason why Richards doesnt get the hostility though. Well 3 that I can think of straight off the top of my head...
1. He has an 80% scoring record this season, second only to Ainscough and way above Roberts. Therefore common sense says critisise Roberts before Richards.
2. Richards is our Kicker and makes up for the difference in tries scored by Ainscough through Goals.
3. Richards can defend very solidly and doesnt have a defensive risk acting against very good scoring record.
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| This is being more complicated than it needs to be.
For us to go overseas and spend so much money on a winger, he should be and absolute world beater. He could still come good, but his performances have not been good enough. I am not in favour of playing Ainscough every game like some people say but I would be happy to drop Roberts and play Ainscough for a week or two. Roberts has been dodgy in defence just like Ainscough.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"This is being more complicated than it needs to be.
For us to go overseas and spend so much money on a winger, he should be and absolute world beater. He could still come good, but his performances have not been good enough. I am not in favour of playing Ainscough every game like some people say but I would be happy to drop Roberts and play Ainscough for a week or two. Roberts has been dodgy in defence just like Ainscough.'"
Yes exactly.
Suggesting to drop Roberts doesnt nessesarily mean writing him off and not seeing him again for his next 3 years. It just means using Ainscough for a few weeks instead and having a bit of change for a while.
Has everyone forgot when Calderwood and Richards kept Dallas out of the team for a few weeks? Doesnt mean everyone hated Dallas, but at the time everyone was happy that the 2 form players were being played in favour of the older more experienced Aussie.
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| Quote ="W!64N_ENTHUSI45T"Yes exactly.
Suggesting to drop Roberts doesnt nessesarily mean writing him off and not seeing him again for his next 3 years. It just means using Ainscough for a few weeks instead and having a bit of change for a while.
Has everyone forgot when Calderwood and Richards kept Dallas out of the team for a few weeks? Doesnt mean everyone hated Dallas, but at the time everyone was happy that the 2 form players were being played in favour of the older more experienced Aussie.'"
I think most peoples problem though is that he was dropped when he was playing well and confident. Maybe if he came back in the team now he would not do as well.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"I think most peoples problem though is that he was dropped when he was playing well and confident. Maybe if he came back in the team now he would not do as well.'"
Well who will know unless he gets another chance.
People said Tomkins wouldnt last in super league this season because hes too small and after seeing him play no-one is in any doubt.
I know Ainscoughs situation is different but the point Im trying to make is surprises happen.
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| I personally feel absolutely gutted for Ainscough, yeah he has slight weaknesses in defence but so does Roberts, I just feel that Ainscough with his runs infield adds more to the team than Amos.
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| Quote ="W!64N_ENTHUSI45T"Well who will know unless he gets another chance.
People said Tomkins wouldnt last in super league this season because hes too small and after seeing him play no-one is in any doubt.
I know Ainscoughs situation is different but the point Im trying to make is surprises happen.'"
He should of played in the Celtic game along with Tomkins IMO. I said that before the game btw.
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| Quote ="jackdog"Phelps is 24. Older than Thomas Leuluai...'"
Cripes, I thought he was only 21/22.
What an awful signing
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"I personally feel absolutely gutted for Ainscough, yeah he has slight weaknesses in defence but so does Roberts, I just feel that Ainscough with his runs infield adds more to the team than Amos.'"
He has major weaknesses in defence, I think taking him out of the firing line for a while and getting him decent coaching is the best thing for him.
Whether or not he's getting that coaching is another matter...
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"I personally feel absolutely gutted for Ainscough, yeah he has slight weaknesses in defence but so does Roberts, I just feel that Ainscough with his runs infield adds more to the team than Amos.'"
Its those darting runs that I want to see Ainscough given a chance for. When he takes the ball in with some venom, hes always ready to step and keeps his legs driving, thats why he made so many breaks, rather than giving up as the man gets to him. aswell he has that bravery to go down the line and try to hold players off with a fend.
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| For me I didn't think Ainscough's defence was a major problem until Mick Potter said they would pepper him in Edinburgh and Noble refused to back him despite him scoring 4 the previous week at Wakefield. That just shattered his confidence and he hasn't been the same player since in either Reserve or First team. It told him and everyone else that he has a problem that I didn't at the time think was a major issue. Bad coaching for me.
If your going to drop players for poor defence why is Tim Smith still playing? His defence has been ten times worse than Ainscough's with 17 times worse return in attack!
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| Quote ="Bilko"For me I didn't think Ainscough's defence was a major problem until Mick Potter said they would pepper him in Edinburgh and Noble refused to back him despite him scoring 4 the previous week at Wakefield. That just shattered his confidence and he hasn't been the same player since in either Reserve or First team. It told him and everyone else that he has a problem that I didn't at the time think was a major issue. Bad coaching for me.
If your going to drop players for poor defence why is Tim Smith still playing? His defence has been ten times worse than Ainscough's with 17 times worse return in attack!'"
Spot on
Before Murrayfield very little was made about Ainscough's defence but when Potter pointed it out it was blown way out of proportion IMO
Saying that I still don't think he's ready to play full time in the first team just yet.
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