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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Looks like the rumour when told about it last week was correct, what a waste of skin.'"
in my rumour there was hock and one more.
seems the "one more" hasnt been caught .....yet.
could be just a rumour though.
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| Need to see his side of the story first, loads of chemicals floating around in prescription drugs, it would be a shame for the game to lose such a talent, one of few who really gives the aussies a fright( and I don't mean his looks), he may even get a lighter ban being a Wigan player.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"And at quite a few rugby clubs, league and union.'"
course it does. Hock was stupid to get caught the others were not. thats the harsh realism of it all.
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| Quote ="Mark"Need to see his side of the story first, loads of chemicals floating around in prescription drugs, it would be a shame for the game to lose such a talent, one of few who really gives the aussies a fright( and I don't mean his looks), he may even get a lighter ban being a Wigan player.'"
Be serious. He's known for it. Arguably should have gone during the last wigan drugs shake down.
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| Quote ="pieman in yorkshire"I wasn't condoning what he has done but given the google search on here about masking it and alleged widespread use in certain areas of society then it seems certain to me that he was stupid to get caught, a point that doesn't surprise me.
One question is, if the test is so easy to fool then, why not find a workaround
If the facts are correct with traces remaining for months then the RFL drugs test should include having a sample of hair taken as well.
This news is not only a bad day for rugby league but also a sad reflection on society today, it highlights the inadequacies of the testing system which obviously need to be more stringent.'"
Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"They caught him.'"
My point is that it seems that they were lucky to catch him
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| Quote ="Catalancs"He's up Wigan with his mates. They're all doing it so he joins in. Like you say, anyone with a brain would say no and anyone with a brain who realised they could lose their livelihood would stay a mile away, but...
One thing though. I can't imagine he's the only player, and I'm not just talking about Wigan, who's been taking things he shouldn't.
Hopefully this will send a message to any other players spending their saturday nights in certain club toliets.'" Good post. It would be very naive for anybody to think he is the only high profile player who has dabbled in social drugs and that is why the rfl need to send out a very strong message. As bad as it will be for Wigan and England they need to start giving out further punishments than just the 2 year ban. Should he be banned from representing his country when he returns to playing?
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"course it does. Hock was stupid to get caught the others were not. thats the harsh realism of it all.'"
He was stupid to take it in the first place.
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| Quote ="Mark"he may even get a lighter ban being a Wigan player.'"
thats what im banking on seeing as we do own the league and everything.
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| Quote ="Fly'in Scotsman"He was stupid to take it in the first place.'"
I agree, but he's not the only one. Not by a long shot. Like I said you'd be surprised.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"in my rumour there was hock and one more.
seems the "one more" hasnt been caught .....yet.
could be just a rumour though.
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From what I've heard he's not alone, but it isn't contained to Wigan either.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"I agree, but he's not the only one. Not by a long shot. Like I said you'd be surprised.'"
Sad thing is I wouldn't be surprised.
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| What a sad day for WRLFC.
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| Quote ="Ancient & Loyal"I've just looked on Wikipedia (although not always totally accurate) at the prohibited substance Benzoylecgonine. It says that it is the primary metabolite of cocaine. However it is used as the main pharmaceutical ingredient of a prescription drug, Esterom which is a solution for the relief of muscle pain.
Maybe I'm clutching at straws here, but is it possible that he's slipped up and taken the substance accidentally via a pain relief tablet?'"
There have been cases of this being used as an excuse, but it rarely works (Ian Sibbit being the latest exception, overusing the drug Salbutamo found in asthma inhalers).
Jaap Stam tried it on when he was tested positive for Nandrolone a few years back, stating that traces of it were found in a 'Vicks' style vapour stick he was using to help nasal congestion!
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| Quote ="those were the days"What a sad day for WRLFC.'"
it is if we dont sack him.
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| On a given Sat night in Wigan there are about 65% using it.
We're in the minority. It's become comment place, players, like everyone else don't seem to see it as such a big deal.
This isn't my take on it, but we have to be realistic.
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| Quote ="Broxy Music"Why couldnt it be a $hit player who this happened to. There have been rumours about him for years , just hope he's not the only one!'"
What has the players talent got to do with this?
And why do you want more players to do it?
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| =redOK one more obviously libelous comment put on here and users will start getting banned. Use some common sense.
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| I'm not getting carried away, merely asking a question.
Is it beyond Sport England and the RFL to do a shake down of every SL player if there are rumours flying around? I'm guessing the resources required and potential fall out would be too great? I know it's potentially tarring everyone with the same brush, but it'd sure send out a message. Drugs and professional sport don't mix.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"I agree, but he's not the only one. Not by a long shot. Like I said you'd be surprised.'"
If so many people are aware of numerous player behaving like this, why don't they just test every player in SL catch the lot of them?
It's looking like he'll quite rightly get the book thrown at him, any other players who have behaved in the same way will be cacking it now, but will probably be looking at ways of masking it as mentioned, and then once it's all blown over in a couple of months they'll be back to there old tricks.
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| Quote ="Rilo"I'm not getting carried away, merely asking a question.
Is it beyond Sport England and the RFL to do a shake down of every SL player if there are rumours flying around? I'm guessing the resources required and potential fall out would be too great? I know it's potentially tarring everyone with the same brush, but it'd sure send out a message. Drugs and professional sport don't mix.'"
Thats what they have the drug testing for.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"From what I've heard he's not alone, but it isn't contained to Wigan either.'"
It's rife within the game mate.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Forget Hock he's now gone if he's out for two years.
In the backrow we have Flanny Farrell and Mossop all dying for a spot. They are the future and lets hope they have a better attitude to professional sports.
They are all quality talents with lots of prospects.
Now we'll have more CAP space for more signings in key areas.
Props a 7 and maybe a FB.'"
Do you ever talk about anything other than the team for next year?
One of the worst days for Wigan RL in the last few seasons and your on about how we can spend his money!
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| Gareth Hock is thick!
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| Quote ="Earthworm Jim"If so many people are aware of numerous player behaving like this, why don't they just test every player in SL catch the lot of them?
It's looking like he'll quite rightly get the book thrown at him, any other players who have behaved in the same way will be cacking it now, but will probably be looking at ways of masking it as mentioned, and then once it's all blown over in a couple of months they'll be back to there old tricks.'"
Get real. They have drug tests, the players make sure they are clean for when the tests come round. Thats how it works.
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