for me loaning him to a NL1 side could be a good option. for one we could recoup some of his wages for CC purposes which may allow us to bring in another player....and having fielden play for barrow, leigh, featherstone etc. might be the motivation he needs to refind his form. Lets be honest he is playing like a national league prop at the moment so he might as well get there!!!

In addition I think you could get a fair chunk of his extortionate salary back from a NL club more than say a SL club. For them even in his dire form he would be a marque signing who would bring 500 or so on top of their normal gates just to see him. A NL club could also look at getting sponsership to bring him in.

He would either return as more of the player we used to see motivated and back to his former self, or would slip into obscurety and could be then just further farmed out to whoever would have him til his contract expired. Either way we cant lose....he either comes back a better player or we get a better player in his place.

Get him touted to every NL club IMO

Loand him to fax and get that Tamghart in exchange on loan, he can run the ball in hard!

No chance of Fielden going on loan

to be honest id even look at doing that as an option. If push came to shove, id even offer fax the option to preseve the status quo in relation to their relevent wages if that was a deal clincher and they couldnt afford him. at least we'd be getting SOMETHING back for his vastly extortionate wages. He is a passenger in this team the same as vaeleki, moran, wilkes and james were!!!

I would even offer that Tamghart a trial, Im sure he would jump at the chance, I see him as a rough diamond.

You have to realise that you can't simply force him to go on loan even if that's what the Club wants to do.

It would have to be something Stuart wanted to do. I agree that he looks to have lost passion for the game, and there are obviously issues whether personal or professional. I can only hope that the club are doing whatever they can to get him whatever help he needs, as clearly he's going to be around until the end of his contract.

Are you and Stuart related?

Waste of space and time. He gives us no go forward and made 2 errors at crucial stages of the match. When he came on we lost our go forward and Saints got us on the back foot.


Waste of space, waste of cap space.

what has happened to him? Same coach, different player it is very strange www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009

what has happened to him? Same coach, different player it is very strange www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009

Its a weird one, his stats say he is doing ok, not as much metres made but round about the same tackles and tackle busts.
But then again stats never show how important the missed tackles were and how easy or hard the metres made or tackle busts were.

Stats don't show everything i suppose.

He just hasn't got that aura about him anymore and his influenece looks to be nil which is really bad for us as we bought him for both of these.

I'd have expected 4-5 years ago that by the time he got to the age he is now he'd be having a Farrell/Sculthorpe/Peacock/Cunningham style influenece on those around him and leading a side but he's done and even young kids are smashing him around the place.

It's hard viewing at the minute.

Its like seeing Mike Tyson get leathered off Danny Williams or something like that.

I still expect Fielden to wake up one morning and look in the mirror and say to himself 'What the f**k is up with me? Im an embarrassment to my former self, Im going to grow some stones and show them who I am!'

Next game he plays he should just leather someone eg Ryan Bailey or Peacock and he might get some of the respect and aura back instead of wimping out. All he needs to do is have a few scraps and he will get what he had back.

Stuart Fielden

Wigan

Stuart Fielden


Position 8
Shirt number 8
Appearances 24
Tries 0
Try assists 0
Goals 0
Drop Goals 0
Meters 2397
Carries 333
Tackles 584
Offloads 28
Attacking Kicks 1
Runs from dummy half 1
Tackle Busts 68
Marker tackles 50
Clean Breaks 0
Forty twenty 0
Kicks in general play 1
Missed goals 0
Missed tackles 31
Errors 12
Penalties 17
Red cards 0
Yellow cards 0





8 Position
29 Shirt number
28 Appearances
7 Tries
1 Try assists
0 Goals
0 Drop Goals
3448 Meters
435 Carries
579 Tackles
60 Offloads
4 Attacking Kicks
1 Runs from dummy half
61 Tackle Busts
76 Marker tackles
14 Clean Breaks
0 Forty twenty
4 Kicks in general play
0 Missed goals
32 Missed tackles
22 Errors
11 Penalties
0 Red cards
0 Yellow cards


Just look at the meters stat.

My 87 year old one legged Gran could batter Ryan Bailey



Not sure Fielden could though at the minute

Exactly, Ryan Bailey is a niggly little get and if Fielden has anything about him he will go for Bailey and give him his dinner!!!! Make sure the game is on sky also so he gets extra recognition and really go to town on him and then he will get that fear back off the other players in the league.

No me & Fielden aren't related. It just bores me that every time Wigan lose. Its either Fielden or Lockers who we should drag outside Wigan Town Hall and shot.

The guy is playing in a young light weight pack with 2 average hookers, not to mention he is in a leaderless team. But because he is meant to be on at least 200k a year its his fault. TBH Roberts bombed 2 easy opportunities to score and then dropped Wilkin's bomb for Pryce's try no 6 page spread on him being 3. We also scoot over the fact that he is a damn good defensive player but because he can't hit the ball like Feka (who cant tackle), he is 3. We also keep using him as dummy runner as someone else has pointed out, his last 2 tries came against Bradford and if my memory serves me right where from about 5 yards out. As a team we dont use our big guys enough near the line.
Last season when we needed him and made him captain he performed, the season we where looking at relegation guess what? he performed.
This year i admit his performance hasn't made me run out and get his name on the back of mine or my kids tops. But although people on here dont like stats he isn't the worst player in the team. We need Fielden in the team, but we also need a better platform for the props to work off.

Stuart makes straight up tackles. Nobody can argue on that. He never hurts opponents. He can be a liability in defence when the ball is being moved about and attackers are using foot work. I thought Feka put some good hits in defensively v Saints. Stuart just cannot time runs or run into space. You cannot keep blaming the hooker. He has had what 6 different hookers? so you cannot then say oh it's Higham's fault. His running lines re just not very good.

Im not going to pass comment on that world class hooker Higham.
But you have to admit we give Fielden all the hospital balls. As a team we dont use our props well. The only one we let run on to the ball is Feka, but if you watch Feka normally gets it from TL not directly from the play the ball.

I've backed both when they've deserved it but Fielden just doesn't warrent it at the moment.

I think the big difference between the 2 also is that at best Lockers is an international class player whereas Fielden was the best in his position in the world and looked to be going onto be one of the best of alltime.

By his own standards Lockers has never had he alarming dip in form that Fielden has.

Fieldens fall from grace is the most spectacular in rugby league history.

But why when we lose is it mainly Fieldens fault?

Is he the reason when we win?

The word is escapegoat. He is an easy target because of who he was when we signed him and what he earns.

It wasn't his fault that we lost on Friday but he could have done more to help us win. He had a very poor game what ever way you look at it and to beat a team like Saints i think you need all your 17 to play somewhere approaching their best.

If Fielden had played towards his best we'd have blitzed them because his best 'is the best'.

He hasn't played at his best since his debut against Warrington for us though. He approached somewhere near it at the back end of last year but it still wasn't quite vintage.

Players like Fielden set such high standards that they make a rod for their own backs and live or die on keeping those standards up.

He's dying on his ar*e at the moment.

If we changed Stuart's contract to 100K a year that will be trebled if he wins man of steel...you would see a very different Stuart Fielden. He is complacent. He's making the big bucks no matter how he plays. Change his contract to a performance based contract and he'll be back to his best in no time.

We'll see a different Fielden next year i'm convinced when he knows he's coming towards the end of his Wigan deal.

Id try and get Fielden out, it would be worth paying him off to free up his cap space for next year. Fielden is Wigans worst signing ever. How such a massive deal can turn so bad is beyond me. He'll be working in his subway shop in 18 months time if he doesnt sort himself out.

He'll have to put in a Golden Boot winning season to deserve a contract the likes of which he's on now.