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| A lot of talk on Mikes site that James Graham has signed and will be anounced after the grand final, supposedly Saints have had enough of him spitting his dummy out and arguing with potter, whether it's true or not is a different story, i haven't seen anything on here about yet so who know's, i now wait for the usual Experts to come and rip apart my post
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Then I think you're probably expecting too much.
What I do anticipate though, is the new man assessing our needs over the close-season, and then drawing up his own list of possible new recruits.'"
Not only has he got the off season to evaluate players but the whole of next year as well, there's a rather large list of players some on very large salary's that contracts end in 2010. We may see a similar lift in form with some of these players just like we did with Coley for the reason that there playing for new contracts.
McGuire's coming in at a good time really he has time to evaluate those who are here and has the chance to bin the rubbish at the end of the season leaving him with what could be rather large pot of money to spend come 2011.
Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"A lot of talk on Mikes site that James Graham has signed and will be anounced after the grand final, supposedly Saints have had enough of him spitting his dummy out and arguing with potter, whether it's true or not is a different story, i haven't seen anything on here about yet so who know's, i now wait for the usual Experts to come and rip apart my post'"
I've seen that to.
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"A lot of talk on Mikes site that James Graham has signed and will be anounced after the grand final, supposedly Saints have had enough of him spitting his dummy out and arguing with potter, whether it's true or not is a different story, i haven't seen anything on here about yet so who know's, i now wait for the usual Experts to come and rip apart my post'"
It's a load of rubbish. Graham isn't leaving Saints and if he does, it won't be to Wigan.
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| Quote ="CAM."It's a load of rubbish. Graham isn't leaving Saints and if he does, it won't be to Wigan.'"
It probably is a load of rubbish but if he were to leave Saints, why not Wigan?
Or would you expect him to fit under the elastic salary cap at Wire?
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| Quote ="DaveO"It probably is a load of rubbish but if he were to leave Saints, why not Wigan?
Or would you expect him to fit under the elastic salary cap at Wire?
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Because he's a Saints fan? I just can't imagine him selling out like that.
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| Quote ="CAM."It's a load of rubbish. Graham isn't leaving Saints and if he does, it won't be to Wigan.'"
and yet he was talking to a Wigan fan that uses that site and said to him that he would join wigan tomorrow if he could have Fieldens wage.
Money is more powerful than loyalty
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| Quote ="CAM."Because he's a Saints fan? I just can't imagine him selling out like that.'"
Gary Connolly? Andy Platt?
Those names ring a bell?
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| Quote ="DaveO"It probably is a load of rubbish but if he were to leave Saints, why not Wigan?
Or would you expect him to fit under the elastic salary cap at Wire?
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Oh you meant the salary cap the challenge cup holders have not broken and Wigan have....the one that is now a live system.These trophy baron years seem to be making you very bitter.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Gary Connolly? Andy Platt?
Those names ring a bell?'"
What's your point? We're talking about Graham, not Connolly or Platt.
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| Quote ="CAM."What's your point? We're talking about Graham, not Connolly or Platt.'"
The point is that you said he probably wouldn't sell out.
They did.
So it's not like it's unheard of.
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| Quote ="Billinge Wires"Oh you meant the salary cap the challenge cup holders have not broken and Wigan have....the one that is now a live system.These trophy baron years seem to be making you very bitter.'"
Ah trotting out the tired old 'spirit of the cap' rule that didn't exist, and buying into the hype that we have a 'live cap' like your bank account
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| Quote ="Billinge Wires"Oh you meant the salary cap the challenge cup holders have not broken and Wigan have....the one that is now a live system.These trophy baron years seem to be making you very bitter.'"
I am not in the least bit bitter thank you very much. On the other hand you seem very touchy on the subject considering no where have I claimed Wire have broken the cap. Indeed on here and the other Wigan site you no doubt frequent I have kept saying there is no way clubs can break the cap since it went live despite people wittering on about image rights and God knows what else.
That doesn't mean it's wrong to wonder how Wire seemingly fit their current squad under the cap and my post you replied to was just a bit of irony suggesting the reason CAM may have thought he would not come here would be to go to the club who could best accommodate him under the the cap, which on recent form would be Wire.
BTW, if you want to play with the big boys expect what lies behind your clubs success to be questioned.
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| Quote ="DaveO"I am not in the least bit bitter thank you very much. On the other hand you seem very touchy on the subject considering no where have I claimed Wire have broken the cap. Indeed on here and the other Wigan site you no doubt frequent I have kept saying there is no way clubs can break the cap since it went live despite people wittering on about image rights and God knows what else.
That doesn't mean it's wrong to wonder how Wire seemingly fit their current squad under the cap and my post you replied to was just a bit of irony suggesting the reason CAM may have thought he would not come here would be to go to the club who could best accommodate him under the the cap, which on recent form would be Wire.
BTW, if you want to play with the big boys expect what lies behind your clubs success to be questioned.
Dave'"
You're right in that sense, there are however ways perfectly in the rules where you can pay a player more than their Salary cap value without breaking the cap at all Oh i love the RFL.
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| I got told James Grahams going to Wire at the Saints match of a mate. Tbh I think its all aload of poop Graham will stay at saints its just another one of many rumours that circulate forums just like this one.
ps I would take him any day!
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| Quote ="DaveO" Snip.
BTW, if you want to play with the big boys expect what lies behind your clubs success to be questioned.
Dave'"
Dun always agree with you DaveO, but thats a corker... Love it.... And its so true. These Wires have a lot to learn....
Wigan Peer now expects vitriolic retort from Wires fan, cause they is so pavlovian...
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| I've heard the graham tale off a very close friend of Chris Joynt last night.
Who knows if it's true but it's defo picking up speed is this tale.
MaGuire and Graham next season we can't be that lucky.
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| Quote ="jonh"Not replacing him set us back big time.'"
Agreed. He may of been a penalty machine but he was up for the biff and the hard stuff. I thought he was vital to us.
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| James Graham? Don't be daft.
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| Would rather have Morley even if it was for just one season.
I reckon Maguire might bring a player over with him.
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| Chris Gerrard, Wigan to Widnes. Is he any good?
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Sydney Roosters are quite keen to get rid, maybe he could be the answer to our front row problem?
www.foxsports.com.au
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Sydney Roosters are quite keen to get rid, maybe he could be the answer to our front row problem?
www.foxsports.com.au
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Quote ="pie8er"Sydney Roosters are quite keen to get rid, maybe he could be the answer to our front row problem?
www.foxsports.com.au'"
No way will Wigan go near him, by all accounts he is a major disruptive influence.
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www.foxsports.com.au'"
No way will Wigan go near him, by all accounts he is a major disruptive influence.
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More trouble than he is worth (and he would cost a bomb)
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| I think he would be fantastic, a true world class player, a ticket seller and an aggressive and intimidating prop that can make yards all day long.
Of course he can be a bit of a knob but he wont be the only one.
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| Quote ="B.B.F.L."I think he would be fantastic, a true world class player, a ticket seller and an aggressive and intimidating prop that can make yards all day long.
Of course he can be a bit of a knob but he wont be the only one.'"
Agreed.
Sadly no doubt a big money move to Japanese Union will be on the cards.
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